3% less than last year Charlie. Why is someone south of the boarder so interested.?
3% less than last year Charlie. Why is someone south of the boarder(sp) so interested.?
Haha...I guess you didn't send that through Harper for approval - they would have caught your glamor error?
I have no problem answering any direct question with a direct answer! Apparently, you do as that is a normal, typical, evasive answer that I have learned to expect and receive from Harper? Therefore, just to be direct in my question how many "POUNDS" of quota did YOU receive when you renewed your license in 2011? How many "POUNDS" of quota did you receive when you renewed your license this year - 2012? This is "directly" asking how many "POUNDS" of quota do you think you OWN? The reaons for the question is to know, exactly how this is effecting an individual - nothing more, noting less. Please do NOT give me that % BS, unless you want to tell the "individual" % of TOTAL TAC, you received last year and % you received this year? Or, do I have to waste my time going through the Canada freedom of information act (whatever it is called).
The “direct” answer to your question is:
1) I go to BC and "sport" fish; therefore, I am interested, concerned with any regulation changes that "directly" effect me.
2) Read your "HISTORY"! While, I agree both the U.S. and Canada "commercial" halibut industry "FINALLY" realized they were both "OVERFISHING" and formed what is now called IPHC. BOTH Alaska and British Columbia commercial halibut sectors lobbied "heavy" for the IPHC to control the "sport” sector. The IPHC declined! Then both of those “commercial” sector started lobby efforts through the state of Alaska and U.S. YOU directly lobbied the "government of Canada" which resulted in the IPHC was "FORCED" to include the sport sector. Simply put... “YOU” are now receiving what you sowed... ever hear of that term "harvest what you have sow"! And as I see it, this now coming right back at YOU the commercial sector. I am loving it as FYI... "you" ain’t in Alaska babby and when this halibut issue goes to Canada Supreme Court that can and will equal in only one result – “SLIPPER SKIPPERS LOSE! Reap it while you can, as the "you asked for it - you got it" and "what goes around - comes around" really does put a "smiley" on this ole' mans face!
Oh, forgot... feel free to PM me any time you wish; however, I sure do wish you would learn how to add!
3% less than last year Charlie. Why is someone south of the boarder so interested.?
Sent this off to Craig Orr at Watershed Watch.
I'll send a similar version to the TC as a rebuttal.
If, and that's a big IF the TC prints it, I'll bet they edit the hell out of it.
Hi Craig,
Hope all is well with you and yours.
Just wanted to touch base with you and offer my thoughts on Hill's article in the TC yesterday.
http://www.timescolonist.com/techno...fisheries+conservationists/6353999/story.html
As a recreational fisherman I take strong exception to being referred to as a 'scofflaw'.
Before Arron shot his mouth off, he might have taken a moment to look at the catch-reductions and conservation-concessions the South Island anglers have made in the last few years concerning early timed Fraser fish.
If any degree of accuracy had figured - or was required - in this blatant-defamation of the angling-community, Hill would also have conceded that the South Island anglers have bore the brunt of these conservation efforts over the last few years. As well, he would understand fully our frustration with the DFO, as throughout this period First Nations have carried out - unabated - their annual F&C slaughter of these fish as they swim up the Fraser, while the DFO-sanctioned salmon-farming industry continues its slaughter of these out-migrating young salmon as they try to swim past these Norwegian-owned disease & parasite infested feedlots. Then there's the highly contentious issue of the DFO allowing a massive herring harvest in the Gulf of Georgia (to send their row to Asia) while our gulf Salmon starve; which, in turn impacts our Orca's. So many problems, not many answers...
Seriously Craig, for a long time I have had the greatest respect for the work you and Watershed Watch have done, especially where it concerned the opposition to the salmon-farming industry. Yet, to allow one of your 'loose-guns' to point the finger at the rec-fishing community when our impact on these fish is so minimal while providing the greatest return and socioeconomic-benefit to our Province, is irresponsible at best.
This is a bad rap further aggravated by an over-zealous 'pot-stirring' reporter.
I would urge you and Watershed Watch to remember that we, BC's recreational fishing community, have the word CONSERVATION stamped all over the front page of our 'Bible of Fisherman's' Ethics!'
Yours truly,
Terry Anderson
Wild Salmon Alliance
Great letter Terry. Glad to see a response to that article.
The point that he misses is that no one proposed to ignore regulation. What happened was that the sportfishing community refused to accept the proposals by DFO during the consultation process. And that is our fair right to do and very reasonable. We do not have to agree with every BS DFO comes up with. Is that so hard to express correctly?
Uh, it's hardly a "great letter" at all.
It's full of inflamatory and accusatory language, hyperbole and whining.
Classic case of making a mountain from a molehill and letting emotions overcome common sense.
Had it been sent to a politician it might have been thrown to an underling for a reply, but I doubt it.
Craig might respond as he is a large cut above politicians.
Oh, and it's roe that's sold to Asian markets, not row.
Take care.
The point that he misses is that no one proposed to ignore regulation. What happened was that the sportfishing community refused to accept the proposals by DFO during the consultation process. And that is our fair right to do and very reasonable. We do not have to agree with every BS DFO comes up with. Is that so hard to express correctly?
Sorry Foxsea but I can't agree that we (a half-million or more in BC) are a "minority group". We make a HUGE dent in the Provinces economic engine each year.=QUOTE]
Just the facts:
Registered B.C. voters:3,200,000
Value of wild salmon capture fishing: $70 million (http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/omfd/fishstats/capture/index.html)
Value of farmed salmon = $500 million (http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/omfd/fishstats/aqua/index.html)
Value of recreational fishery (tidal and fresh) $288 million (http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/omfd/fishstats/sport/index.html)
Overstating our limited influence will not help us - in fact it may backfire. Some voters in B.C. actually consider sport fishing a priviledge, not a right. Others would like to see the sport fishery end. We are a minority - culturally, in actual numbers and in economic importance. We need a cohesive, unified lobby, as you have noted.
Pogo: "We have seen the enemy..."
Thanks for pointing out the type-o in my letter Dave and as well for the kind assessment of the work. Nice to know all us rec-fishers are on the same page.
Sorry Foxsea but I can't agree that we (a half-million or more in BC) are a "minority group". We make a HUGE dent in the Provinces economic engine each year.
Regardless we are a fragmented bunch and will continue to be so, especially if we keep bashing the **** out of each other...
Craig did reply to my letter and yes Dave, that's something we can agree on, he is a top-shelf human being who has given endlessly to the cause of Pacific Salmon (opps, I spelt Samon wit a capitol, dat's not very good englisch eh Dave
Terry.
Thanks for your note. I agree that language is important; scofflaw is not an appropriate word, and Aaron and I have had that conversation. I would also agree that many anglers--including me--kill fewer Chinook than in the past, and that many have made substantial conservation concessions. But the facts are still facts, and too many Chinook populations continue to decline. While the reasons for those declines are likely many--including salmon farming impacts, which many in all sectors continue to ignore (as you well know)--the evidence suggests that all sectors continue to harvest certain Chinook populations/age classes at rates that are currently unsustainable, and that harvest restrictions are one of the few tools in the toolbox. We all have to do more, not just rest on we have already done, if we truly wish to turn the tide, never an easy task, given how far things have gone.
Best regards,
Craig
Ah-h-h, an English major; just what we need on this forum.
Sure, I screw up and shoot my mouth off sometimes, letting my emotions (and anger) get the best of me. More than once in the past I've submitted my work for publication that I thought was some of my best (edited the hell out of it), only to have it end up in the editors garbage can. To some, writing comes nearly effortlessly, to me - I fight and wrestle every word to the page. Yet, regardless of my limited capacity as a writer, some of my work has made it through over the years - Vancouver Sun, Province, Cowichan Valley Times, Black Press, BC Outdoors Magazine) and of this, I am proud. I actually got off my duff and did something.
Ah-h-h, an English major; just what we need on this forum.
You will be busy then, offering up critiques/corrections on not just my own mechanical/grammatical errors - and over the top hysterical & impulsive rants - but nearly every other fisherman who posts here. When the day arrives that we have to have a dictionary at hand and scrutinize each and every word - every thought - we post here before hitting the 'submit' button, we are done.
Sure, I screw up and shoot my mouth off sometimes, letting my emotions (and anger) get the best of me. More than once in the past I've submitted my work for publication that I thought was some of my best (edited the hell out of it), only to have it end up in the editors garbage can. To some, writing comes nearly effortlessly, to me - I fight and wrestle every word to the page.
Yet, regardless of my limited capacity as a writer, some of my work has made it through over the years - Vancouver Sun, Province, Cowichan Valley Times, Black Press, BC Outdoors Magazine) and of this, I am proud.
I actually got off my duff and did something.