Petition

[kevind]

Attached is a petition by the citizens of Canada to call upon the Prime Minister to immediately scrap his government’s May 1, 2020, Order in Council decision related to confiscating legally owned firearms and instead pass legislation that will target criminals, stop the smuggling of firearms into Canada, go after those who illegally acquire firearms, and apologize to legal firearms owners in Canada.

https://petitions.ourcommons.ca/en/Petition/Details?Petition=e-2574

 

[fish4all]

Signed and shared. Trudeau sucks.

 

[ziggy]

Being as how he shamelessly and falsely used the tragedy in Nova Scotia,where no legally possessed weapons were used to the best of my knowledge, is there a chance they will also use this tragedy to create a National Denturist Registry. Makes as much sense!

 

[IronNoggin]

Attached is a petition by the citizens of Canada to call upon the Prime Minister to immediately scrap his government’s May 1, 2020, Order in Council decision related to confiscating legally owned firearms and instead pass legislation that will target criminals, stop the smuggling of firearms into Canada, go after those who illegally acquire firearms, and apologize to legal firearms owners in Canada.

https://petitions.ourcommons.ca/en/Petition/Details?Petition=e-2574

This petition has taken off like a Rocket!
Over 80,000 signatures in the first 24 hours it has been out.
It is more than probable that this Parliamentary Petition will exceed the last one focused on this matter wherein it was recognized to be the largest number of Canadian signatures on such a petition ever.
With all that is happening, I suspect this one will literally blow the last one right out of the water for that title.

Again, there is much going on in this regard elsewhere.
And also again, any who are concerned or affected and want to know just what is being done as a result, feel free to contact me via pm.

Cheers,
Nog

 

[Foxsea]

Gun advocates huffing and puffing about the injustice of it all. Your petition has all the predictable signs of an N.R.A. puff piece. Gun owners are a minority of Canadians. The facts remain that gun ownership is a privilege that can be revoked - it has never been a right. The vast majority of Canadians, especially in urban areas, want assault rifles and handguns banned. Most parliamentarians are on-board with the ban. Tightening border security is a good idea, as well. It's coming.

We have been through all this on a different thread a few days ago and any discussion deteriorates into deflection, denial and name calling by gun advocates. Beside, this is a fishing forum.

 

[sasqman]

Signed. Thanks for posting.

 

[ziggy]

Gun advocates huffing and puffing about the injustice of it all. Your petition has all the predictable signs of an N.R.A. puff piece. Gun owners are a minority of Canadians. The facts remain that gun ownership is a privilege that can be revoked - it has never been a right. The vast majority of Canadians, especially in urban areas, want assault rifles and handguns banned. Most parliamentarians are on-board with the ban. Tightening border security is a good idea, as well. It's coming.

We have been through all this on a different thread a few days ago and any discussion deteriorates into deflection, denial and name calling by gun advocates. Beside, this is a fishing forum.

The vast majority of Canadians want assault rifles and handguns taken out of the hands of criminals, which this legislation really does nothing to address. Big difference.

 

[IronNoggin]

... We have been through all this on a different thread a few days ago and any discussion deteriorates into deflection, denial and name calling by gun advocates. Beside, this is a fishing forum.

Doing your level best to have this thread locked or deleted again I see. Predictable.

I'd strongly suggest that we leave the debate for other platforms as suggested by the Admin here.
Be nice if we could see this not degenerate like the last one did so it could stand...

Nog

 

[AlK]

Signed and forwarded the petition to a friend.

 

[pescador]

Signed.

 

[Beaudog]

This petition is as much about abuse of power and lack of democratic process as it is about gun control.

I would love to see assault type weapons removed from Canada. In my opinion, no one needs to own a weapon of that type. However, I also respect the right of legal gun owners to have those weapons if they so choose. As noted above, this legislation will do nothing at all to remove these types of weapons from criminal hands, therefore useless for it's stated purpose and should be scrapped.

Signed and shared.

 

[fogged in]

SPORT FISHING BC
is the name of this forum.
Anything connected to the Fishing industry is the norm.
I don't think a petition regarding guns should be on SPORT FISHING BC.
It's a highly emotional subject for a few and very political!!
Just my opinion, sorry if offends some of you!

 

[Foxsea]

The vast majority of Canadians want assault rifles and handguns taken out of the hands of criminals, which this legislation really does nothing to address. Big difference.

The source of illegal guns is often from legal gun owners. Over 3000 guns are stolen each year and then there are many "straw" purchasers.

A growing source of illegal guns in Canada, according to police, is firearms that were originally bought legitimately through retailers.

While the Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police says it is working with Statistics Canada to compile national figures, Chief Saunders says what he's seen in Toronto is a growing concern.

"In Toronto, the crime guns, the majority of them are domestic, predominately through straw purchasing," Saunders says.

Some of these guns were stolen from their legitimate owners and resold, others were bought legally by Canadians and then offered for sale illegally for a profit.

"Straw purchasing" is when a legal Canadian firearm licence-holder buys a gun and then sells it on the black market. Criminals try to remove the serial numbers to make them untraceable.

"Those guns are now in the illegal market and being used as crime guns, typically," Crowley says.
And it is happening across the country. Law enforcement officials refer to widely publicized cases of Canadians being convicted of selling legally purchased guns on the black market.
Among the more notable cases is Justin Green, a former philosophy student at the University of Toronto, who legally purchased 23 handguns over the course of 22 months starting in 2011, including as many as 15 from a single location, and then illegally resold them. That same year, Andrew Winchester purchased 47 handguns in the Greater Toronto Area over the course of six months, selling them on the illegal market for as much as $100,000.

Green and Winchester were only caught after the guns they purchased and resold were found at crime scenes and identified. Straw purchasing cases have also recently occurred in Alberta and B.C., with officers telling CBC News it is a growing concern for them as well.

"Straw purchasing is a hot-button topic," says Wes Winkel, owner of the Ellwood Epps sporting goods store in Severn, Ont. He says it can be tough for retailers to identify a possible straw purchaser.
-CTV News, 2019

 

[IronNoggin]

Same old crew doing what they can to get this shut down. Again... Predictable.

Don't take the bait Gentz.
Leave them to their little attempts to draw you out and IGNORE them.

Thanks in advance...
Nog

 

[ziggy]

The source of illegal guns is often from legal gun owners. Over 3000 guns are stolen each year and then there are many "straw" purchasers.

A growing source of illegal guns in Canada, according to police, is firearms that were originally bought legitimately through retailers.

While the Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police says it is working with Statistics Canada to compile national figures, Chief Saunders says what he's seen in Toronto is a growing concern.

"In Toronto, the crime guns, the majority of them are domestic, predominately through straw purchasing," Saunders says.

Some of these guns were stolen from their legitimate owners and resold, others were bought legally by Canadians and then offered for sale illegally for a profit.

"Straw purchasing" is when a legal Canadian firearm licence-holder buys a gun and then sells it on the black market. Criminals try to remove the serial numbers to make them untraceable.

"Those guns are now in the illegal market and being used as crime guns, typically," Crowley says.
And it is happening across the country. Law enforcement officials refer to widely publicized cases of Canadians being convicted of selling legally purchased guns on the black market.
Among the more notable cases is Justin Green, a former philosophy student at the University of Toronto, who legally purchased 23 handguns over the course of 22 months starting in 2011, including as many as 15 from a single location, and then illegally resold them. That same year, Andrew Winchester purchased 47 handguns in the Greater Toronto Area over the course of six months, selling them on the illegal market for as much as $100,000.

Green and Winchester were only caught after the guns they purchased and resold were found at crime scenes and identified. Straw purchasing cases have also recently occurred in Alberta and B.C., with officers telling CBC News it is a growing concern for them as well.

"Straw purchasing is a hot-button topic," says Wes Winkel, owner of the Ellwood Epps sporting goods store in Severn, Ont. He says it can be tough for retailers to identify a possible straw purchaser.
-CTV News, 2019

Like I said criminals.

 

[pescador]

89,000 signatures And counting in just over a day. The second highest signatures ever on an parliamentary e petition next to electoral reform at 130,000.

 

[Ringo]

Signed and also forwarded to others. In support of our democracy and to protect/respect the individual ownership RIGHTS.

 

[kevind]

Please lets keep this on track. Its in the general open forum and lots of sports fisherman are also hunters or enjoy shooting sports. Lets leave out the talking and just leave this for people who choose to participate or not.

 

[Fins -n- Skins]

Same old crew doing what they can to get this shut down. Again... Predictable.

Don't take the bait Gentz.
Leave them to their little attempts to draw you out and IGNORE them.

Thanks in advance...
Nog

Oh come on Nog you have been just as guilty of going off track with Political rants and anti govt and getting threads shut down.. Everyone is entitled to there opinion of course but sometimes you want it both ways and thats why they get shut down. Just saying bro.

 

[Captain PartyMarty]

signed