New Study Finds a Modest Carbon Tax Would Hurt All Humanity for Two Generations

[wildmanyeah]

Here’s one way to save carbon all you power sailers out there how about you try actually putting up your sails once in awhile lol.

 

[agentaqua]

You are right-on the mark, WMY. In ~60yrs or so (altho I wont b around to see it) - it'll be back to sailing rigs and very limited internal combustion engines.

 

[wildmanyeah]

You are right-on the mark, WMY. In ~60yrs or so (altho I wont b around to see it) - it'll be back to sailing rigs and very limited internal combustion engines.

well I find it annoying, why buy a sailboat if you never actually put up the sails.

 

[agentaqua]

street cred get a nice Captain's hat w the package!

 

[agentaqua]

Here's some sobering thought wrt our oil reserves - Hubbard's Peak
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubbert_peak_theory

 

[wildmanyeah]

I thought peak oil was put to bed?

 

[agentaqua]

revised perhaps - ignored maybe by the oil lobby

 

[agentaqua]

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10210730306293282

 

[agentaqua]

Thawing soil threatens this historic site, but Parks Canada won't say it's because of climate change
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calg...limate-change-access-to-information-1.5192594

Canadian buildings, coastlines, northern communities face biggest climate risks: report
https://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/canada-biggest-climate-risks-report-1.5199497
https://cca-reports.ca/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Report-Canada-top-climate-change-risks.pdf

 

[OldBlackDog]

90 Leading Italian Scientists Sign Petition: CO2 Impact On Climate “UNJUSTIFIABLY EXAGGERATED” … Catastrophic Predictions “NOT REALISTIC”
By P Gosselin on 4. July 2019

However, the anthropic origin of global warming IS AN UNPROVEN HYPOTHESIS, deduced only from some climate models, that is complex computer programs, called General Circulation Models .

On the contrary, the scientific literature has increasingly highlighted the existence of a natural climatic variability that the models are not able to reproduce.

This natural variability explains a substantial part of global warming observed since 1850.

The anthropic responsibility for climate change observed in the last century is therefore UNJUSTIFIABLY EXAGGERATED and catastrophic predictions ARE NOT REALISTIC


https://notrickszone.com/2019/07/04...rated-catastrophic-predictions-not-realistic/

 

[dradons]

90 Leading Italian Scientists Sign Petition: CO2 Impact On Climate “UNJUSTIFIABLY EXAGGERATED” … Catastrophic Predictions “NOT REALISTIC”
By P Gosselin on 4. July 2019

However, the anthropic origin of global warming IS AN UNPROVEN HYPOTHESIS, deduced only from some climate models, that is complex computer programs, called General Circulation Models .

On the contrary, the scientific literature has increasingly highlighted the existence of a natural climatic variability that the models are not able to reproduce.

This natural variability explains a substantial part of global warming observed since 1850.

The anthropic responsibility for climate change observed in the last century is therefore UNJUSTIFIABLY EXAGGERATED and catastrophic predictions ARE NOT REALISTIC


https://notrickszone.com/2019/07/04...rated-catastrophic-predictions-not-realistic/

I commend your ability to scour the internet looking for anti global warming/climate change documents.

I had no idea that "Urban Architect" and "Industrial Safety Manager" provided you the title of leading scientist.......

If we are in the mood for lists:

http://www.opr.ca.gov/facts/list-of-scientific-organizations.html

 

[agentaqua]

Well done, dradons! To add to dradons post: I believe that a person who really scrapes the bottom of the barrel (denier blogs) in order to try and deny the many years worth of many hundreds of peer-reviewed articles written by thousands of scientists and researchers is in order to what I can only assume is an attempt to feel safe in the religion of denying climate science. Kinda sad, desperate & irresponsible measures, IMHO.

In addition to dragons post above - here's just some of the actual science journals available that can and should be referenced instead of the big oil & coal supported denier PR machine:

Climate — Open Access Journal
https://www.mdpi.com/journal/climate

Journal of Climate (JCLI)
https://www.ametsoc.org/ams/index.cfm/publications/journals/journal-of-climate/

Journal of Geography & Natural Disasters
https://www.omicsonline.org/geography-natural-disasters.php

Nature Climate Change
https://phys.org/journals/nature-climate-change/

The Journal of Quaternary Science
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/journal/10991417#pane-01cbe741-499a-4611-874e-1061f1f4679e01

Journal of Ocean and Climate: Science, Technology and Impacts
https://journals.sagepub.com/home/ocs

 

[agentaqua]

and some more:
(EF #1) Reviews of Geophysics - publisher: Wiley, for the American Geophysical Union

• (EF #2) Annual Review of Earth and Planetary Science publisher: Annual Reviews
• (EF #3) Climate Dynamics - publisher: Springer
• (EF #4) Journal of Geophysical Research (JGR) - AGU journal series with seven sub-disciplines, five relevant to climate science:
  • JGR - Atmospheres
  • JGR - Biogeosciences
  • JGR - Earth Surface
  • JGR - Oceans
  • JGR - Space Physics
• (EF #5) Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society (BAMS)
• (EF #6) American Journal of Science publisher: AJS, at Yale University Dept. of Geology and Geophysics
• (EF #7) Earth Science Reviews - publisher: Elsevier
• (EF #8) Paleoceanography - publisher: AGU
• (EF #9) Global Biogeochemical Cycles - publisher: AGU
• (EF #10) Journal of Climate publisher: American Meteorological Society
• International Journal of Climatology (IJC) - Publisher: Wiley, for Royal Meteorological Society
• Theoretical and Applied Climatology - publisher: Springer
• Climate Research publisher: Inter-Research Science Center
• further American Geophysical Union publications:
  • Earth Interactions
  • Geochemistry, Geophysics, Geosystems (GGG)
  • Geophysical Research Letters (GRL)
  • EOS - Transactions American Geophysical Union (weekly newspaper, print only) + web supplement
  • Geophysical Monograph (print only; ISSN 0065-8448)
• Quarterly Journal of The Royal Meteorological Society - publisher: Wiley
• Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society - publisher: Royal Society of London
• Earth and Planetary Science Letters - publisher: Elsevier
• Geophysical Journal International - publisher: Blackwell Synergy for the Royal Astonomical Society and the Deutche Geophysikalische Gesellschaft
• Meteorology and Atmospheric Physics - publisher: Springer
• Journal of the Atmospheric Sciences - publisher: GFDL
• Journal of Applied Meteorology and Climatology - publisher: American Meteorological Society
• Global and Planetary Change - publisher: Elsevier
• Global Environmental Change - publisher: Elsevier
• Atmospheric Environment - publisher: Elsevier
• Atmospheric Chemistry and Physics
• Physics and Chemistry of the Earth, Part A
• Boundary Layer Meteorology - publisher: Springer
• Atmospheric Science Letters - publisher: Wiley
• Advances in Atmospheric Sciences - publisher: Springer

 

[OldBlackDog]

And science says,
PUTTING CLIMATE CHANGE CLAIMS TO THE TEST

https://www.thegwpf.com/putting-climate-change-claims-to-the-test/

 

[agentaqua]

So a guy that marketed baby feeding hardware is a far more trustworthy expert than thousands of accredited and published scientists and researchers? Because he tells you what you wanna hear?

 

[halimark]

I have a suggestion for the UN. If Global Warming is going to end our existence someday soon?? This should be their #1 issue, I suggest they start worrying more about countries who are causing Global Warming, make a plan and stop wasting time trying to lobby countries (Trudeau) to have every gun, weapon and round of ammunition marked labelled and tracked forever. Makes sense??

HM

 

[OldBlackDog]

OMG, you are so predictable, lol.

Predictions never happen ,yet you want people to believe them.

It has been years and nothing your group says happens.

At what point will you ever question anything or are you just happy to go with the herd??

Anyway, you go hard and believe what you want.

However don’t try to bully other people.

Other people are allowed their opinions.

 

[agentaqua]

OBD - you realize you stated: "OMG, you are so predictable, lol." followed by :"Predictions never happen ..."

You even refute yourself, OBD. I guess self-consciousness is a hoax, too?

(Guess this is where i'm supposed to type LOL or something...)

cog·ni·tive dis·so·nance
noun
Psychology
noun: cognitive dissonance

1. the state of having inconsistent thoughts, beliefs, or attitudes, especially as relating to behavioral decisions and attitude change.

 

[Deleted member 8461]

To save the Pacific is to save the whole planet.

https://twitter.com/UN/status/1137479917203906560

 

[agentaqua]

Who's behind mass text messages asking Canadians about the carbon tax?
https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/who...king-canadians-about-the-carbon-tax-1.4494160