read the BR_letter_re_SCA_review.pdf attachment, WMY
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wildmanyeah
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Thats not the original DFO response hes replying to...
As Wildman had said your only posting half of the topic. Could we see the other half? If not what does this even mean?
Re Read it until you understand what it means. To me it points out the recent internal DFO report only saw what the writers wanted to see and went out of its way not to see anything else.
Wow topic shift, what a surprise. I've answered your question 3 times. Again do you have any supportive information regarding sea lice? All you have done is taken number counted by the farm in June and turned it around and made the statement that fish farms are killing out going smolt production. All this from a person who a page ago said I only believe the science. Still waiting. How anyone can make assumptions about an industry and then come on a public forum and try to sell it is ........
Should I keep going or are you going to share the science, any science. Do you have beach seine numbers or citizens for science trawl surveys? Nothin? Well sorry but.....
wildmanyeah
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Do u have a copy of the recent internal review?
wildmanyeah
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Very interesting thanks
Ya - it looks like Mark Higgins and Stewart Johnson signed off on this. Sure doesn't help provide assurance to the public that our regulators are "unbiased" - or even honest for that matter. Justice Cohen mentioned this as one of his recommendations.
as I said:
OldBlackDog
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Science says: https://leaderpost.com/news/world/d...nals/wcm/009fc3f4-44cb-4aaa-b5ee-575142a59ccd
Peer reviewed!
Peer reviewed!
trophywife
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I believe the term is “weaponized science”
Peer reviewed was also a useful qualifier before today’s public climate.
I know at least 15 peers who will review everything I say and concur. Every time.
california
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Peer review in a scientific context does not mean finding a bunch of other alt right nut bars to agree with you. The peers in peer reviewed are other experts in the field, editors of scientific journals, professors who's job it is in the review not to concur or agree but to look critically at the paper for inconsistencies, logical flaws or mistakes in the scientific method or conclusions. They can do anything from make edits, to reject the paper outright and often do. The peer reviewed process is the exact opposite of what you insinuate it is.
OldBlackDog
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Well as noted in the article those days are gone
This is not the first time that this has happened.
Are you kidding? wow
wildmanyeah
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Have a listen to this podcast on your free time.
https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2018/03/07/591213302/episode-677-the-experiment-experiment
fogged in
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“It might be time for the world to talk to Canada on the whales’ behalf.”
“Washington state recently legislated the phase-out of Atlantic salmon farms in four years to protect wild salmon.
However, just across the border in British Columbia, there are 120 Atlantic-salmon farms, many sited on Fraser River salmon-migration routes.
Of direct concern to Tahlequah, Scoter and the pregnant mother whales, the B.C. salmon farming industry reports that 80 per cent of B.C. farm salmon are infected with a virus called piscine orthoreovirus. Canadian government scientists recently reported that the same strain of PRV that is in the farmed salmon infects chinook-salmon red blood cells, causing them to rupture en masse, leading to organ failure.
Washington state responded by prohibiting the transfer of 800,000 Atlantic salmon into a farm in Puget Sound that were infected with an Icelandic strain of PRV.
Canada has a very different policy. It allows farmed salmon, infected with what appears to be a Norwegian strain of PRV, to exist in salmon farms on the Fraser River salmon-migration route.
Directly affecting the whales, the 2018 Fraser River chinook salmon return is nothing short of a collapse. The ‘Namgis First Nation of Alert Bay and I were in court last month to try to stop PRV-infected Atlantic salmon from entering the farms in their territory.
Hundreds of miles north of Puget Sound, chinook salmon tags from Washington state hatcheries have been collected in ‘Namgis territory, where the fish are being exposed to this blood disease.
Turning off exposure to PRV might save enough chinook salmon to feed the orca.
Two countries, one virus, opposite policies — and families of whales caught in the middle. We know them by name and we know they are dying. One virus, opposite policies, only one can be right.
It might be time for the world to talk to Canada on the whales’ behalf.”
https://www.timescolonist.com/opini...e-virus-two-countries-dying-whales-1.23455707
“Washington state recently legislated the phase-out of Atlantic salmon farms in four years to protect wild salmon.
However, just across the border in British Columbia, there are 120 Atlantic-salmon farms, many sited on Fraser River salmon-migration routes.
Of direct concern to Tahlequah, Scoter and the pregnant mother whales, the B.C. salmon farming industry reports that 80 per cent of B.C. farm salmon are infected with a virus called piscine orthoreovirus. Canadian government scientists recently reported that the same strain of PRV that is in the farmed salmon infects chinook-salmon red blood cells, causing them to rupture en masse, leading to organ failure.
Washington state responded by prohibiting the transfer of 800,000 Atlantic salmon into a farm in Puget Sound that were infected with an Icelandic strain of PRV.
Canada has a very different policy. It allows farmed salmon, infected with what appears to be a Norwegian strain of PRV, to exist in salmon farms on the Fraser River salmon-migration route.
Directly affecting the whales, the 2018 Fraser River chinook salmon return is nothing short of a collapse. The ‘Namgis First Nation of Alert Bay and I were in court last month to try to stop PRV-infected Atlantic salmon from entering the farms in their territory.
Hundreds of miles north of Puget Sound, chinook salmon tags from Washington state hatcheries have been collected in ‘Namgis territory, where the fish are being exposed to this blood disease.
Turning off exposure to PRV might save enough chinook salmon to feed the orca.
Two countries, one virus, opposite policies — and families of whales caught in the middle. We know them by name and we know they are dying. One virus, opposite policies, only one can be right.
It might be time for the world to talk to Canada on the whales’ behalf.”
https://www.timescolonist.com/opini...e-virus-two-countries-dying-whales-1.23455707
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