Fish Farm trouble in BC.
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The videos show they are all ALIVE at the top end of Texada because the recievers picked up thier ping at that point then they do not show up at the last reciever at the top end of Vancouver Island meaning they all died in between. There were no recievers placed on the migration route to acertain weather the smolts went up the Johnson straight or the more likely route through the Broughton so no one can tell which way they went and disapeared however there have been a lot of smolts captured covered in deadly Sea Lice around the Fish Farms that awaited a certain death.
Travel time (d) was calculated for each fish either from release to arrival at each array, or from arrival at one array until arrival at the next array along the migratory path. These estimates could only be made for smolts detected on both arrays bracketing the segment in question. Arrival was defined as the first detection on each array. This means the study was not looking at how the smolts went past Texada only if they made it to the top of Vancouver Island. Its a good queston why they didn't put a reciever in the Johnson strait but since they didn't this study is only showing the fish that hit the last reciever not how it migrated past Texada to get there.
How many between the two at Texada Island and the last one at the top of Vancouver Island? NONE
Actually - I called your assertion that smolts are protected from sea lice because you were claiming that they didn't interact with the fish farms in the Broughtons - incorrect, bones. If you - or other posters - go back over the past few pages - they can reference that.
Thanks for your efforts in trying to find the holy grail of no fish farm impacts, however.
AND - NO! - those videos are NOT confirmation that your assertion was true. It's more than a little bizzare and baffling to me that you are claiming that:
If smolts do not travel through the Brougtons - how is it that DFO, independent researchers and DFO all can find smolts around the fish farms there - and that they focus on sea lice levels:
https://academic.oup.com/icesjms/article-pdf/68/1/144/1754386/fsq146.pdf
https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjNwpKI-dfXAhVL7mMKHU3MAdwQFggmMAA&url=http://marineharvest.ca/globalassets/canada/pdf/asc-dashboard-2016/broughton-archipelago-sea-lice-2015.pdf&usg=AOvVaw1aPkIeZEEY3RoBq1xeo9Nh
www.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/Library/278452.pdf
http://publications.gc.ca/collections/collection_2015/mpo-dfo/Fs70-5-2014-060-eng.pdf
http://www.oag-bvg.gc.ca/internet/English/pet_054_e_28761.html
https://thetyee.ca/News/2016/07/25/Sea-Lice-Young-Salmon/
http://www.nrcresearchpress.com/doi/abs/10.1139/f04-016
If no smolts travel through the Broughtons - they wouldn't catch any there - right? And I wonder why they would be looking for sea lice on the smolts?? hmmmmm....
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That's quite the assertion by Mz. Krause. Not sure why she would then be listed in mike duffy's rolladex/Diary - that came out in the mike duffy trial. She is instead just "visiting" Ottawa on her "vacation" and just happened to be best buds with mike duffy?? Ya, right...
https://www.desmog.ca/vivian-krause
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bigdogeh
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yeah, no doubt. She seems to enjoy hanging out with big industry and the 1% it seems. Must be they pay better...? would be interesting to see all those who's payroll she is on..
and a quick google search comes up with this...
https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Vivian_Krause#cite_ref-32
https://www.desmog.ca/vivian-krause
Yeah, she seems credible.
whmmnn... environmental charities bad.... tar sands, fish farms good.... lol,
and a quick google search comes up with this...
https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Vivian_Krause#cite_ref-32
https://www.desmog.ca/vivian-krause
Yeah, she seems credible.
whmmnn... environmental charities bad.... tar sands, fish farms good.... lol,
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EXACTLY terrin!
GLG
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Ok let's have a look.....
Chilko Sockeye 2017
http://kintama.com/animator/dep/Chilko2017_sockeye/
Care to explain that?
So - here's evidence of a severe conflict of interest and a complete lack of professionalism, IMHO - from one of our "regulators" of that industry.
Instead of being scientific and professional, including using the precautionary approach by recognizing the implications of the histopathology results - he did an end-run and didn't test for PRv - and instead downplayed the results - and called then something else (heart disease of unknown cause) incorrectly to not raise alarm bells and to avoid his due and the governments due diligence in testing and reporting.
Pretty serious failure in professional and fiduciary duty, IMHO
Guess Bones didn't want to post that one. Thanks, GLG!
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/stor...=1&s=cda0d8210e61d723f06683f50bd4e8731c83f6dc As you can see there are no Arrays and no recievers between H (NSOG) and I (QCS). So its like I said NONE.
bigdogeh
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yeah, that's just crazy... pretty cosy relationship with the fish farm boys. doesn't surprise me unfortunately with him. I saw the emails that were released and watched his testimony in the cohen commission . It opened my eyes up to how protectionist he is towards the fish farms and combative toward Kristy Miller. Certainly not unbiased in any way or going out of his way to find the virus that was so obviously there. That might be inconvenient for the fish farm industry. ....
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keep looking try POST....
Sure, have you looked at the Seymour river acoustic paper, where as 87% of smolts die at estuary? We talked about this 2-3 years ago. Speculation was the rather large population of cormorants (sp) that just sit on the rocks off sandheads. You ask for the paper and it been put here a few times.
Lol there called local stock...... Could you answer the question?
As part of the SSMSP, PSF has enhanced the use of acoustic tags and receivers within the Strait of Georgia. Until 2015, the existing acoustic receiver arrays allowed for fish detections in the lower Fraser River, in Juan de Fuca Strait, in north-central Strait of Georgia (NSoG), and in northern Queen Charlotte Strait only. While these arrays have been very useful, they could not provide sufficient resolution to assess the residence time; migration patterns, rate and timing; and survival of juvenile Pacific salmon within the Strait of Georgia.
To address these issues, PSF deployed 43 new acoustic VR4 receivers in the Discovery Islands (northern end of the Strait of Georgia/Salish Sea) and Johnstone Strait near Sayward, BC in 2015. 41 of these were loaned from OTN and the other two were loaned from Kintama. These are all dual array receivers and can pick up both 69KHz and 180KHz frequencies, which are emitted by larger Vemco V7 tags (69 kHz) and new V4 (180 kHz) tags, respectively. The V4 tag is half the size of the V7 and weighs only 0.24 gm in water. The smaller tag is preferred for juvenile salmon but the cost of this development is a reduced range of signal detection at 180 kHz.
The locations for deployment have been mapped by Kintama Research and are shown below.
The red coloured arrays in the figure above are those arrays implemented by KIntama Research and are additional to the arrays managed by the Ocean Tracking Network (OTN)- coloured yellow. The red-coloured arrays in the Discovery Islands are 69 and 180KHz and can detect the new small and high frequency V4 tags in addition to larger tags.
These locations allow us to unambiguously measure individual juvenile fish migration rate, residence time and survival by specific areas within the Salish Sea and Discovery Islands. Calculation of survival rates requires a receiver array seaward of a tagging location and/or a previous array (i.e., the QCI array enables estimates of survival of tagged fish that pass over the new Johnstone Strait array and then are detected at the QCI array). The information on salmon migration behavior and survival provides direct evidence that can support other studies that infer residence times or survival based on observational studies.
To address these issues, PSF deployed 43 new acoustic VR4 receivers in the Discovery Islands (northern end of the Strait of Georgia/Salish Sea) and Johnstone Strait near Sayward, BC in 2015. 41 of these were loaned from OTN and the other two were loaned from Kintama. These are all dual array receivers and can pick up both 69KHz and 180KHz frequencies, which are emitted by larger Vemco V7 tags (69 kHz) and new V4 (180 kHz) tags, respectively. The V4 tag is half the size of the V7 and weighs only 0.24 gm in water. The smaller tag is preferred for juvenile salmon but the cost of this development is a reduced range of signal detection at 180 kHz.
The locations for deployment have been mapped by Kintama Research and are shown below.
The red coloured arrays in the figure above are those arrays implemented by KIntama Research and are additional to the arrays managed by the Ocean Tracking Network (OTN)- coloured yellow. The red-coloured arrays in the Discovery Islands are 69 and 180KHz and can detect the new small and high frequency V4 tags in addition to larger tags.
These locations allow us to unambiguously measure individual juvenile fish migration rate, residence time and survival by specific areas within the Salish Sea and Discovery Islands. Calculation of survival rates requires a receiver array seaward of a tagging location and/or a previous array (i.e., the QCI array enables estimates of survival of tagged fish that pass over the new Johnstone Strait array and then are detected at the QCI array). The information on salmon migration behavior and survival provides direct evidence that can support other studies that infer residence times or survival based on observational studies.
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