Braid—-the Upside and the Downside

Sharphooks

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Seven years ago I put the largest spring of my fishing career into a net. The size of the fish was one thing, but what was noteworthy was that was the first season I ever tried using braided mainline. And even more noteworthy was that this line (65 lb test Berkeley spider wire) survived that fish taking a wrap around someone’s twin Yamaha legs then peeling off 50 meters of line.

No way would I have put that fish in the net if I’d been using old-school mono. That’s braid’s upside. And of course feeling the bait going into a fish’s mouth and the head-shakes once you’re hooked up.

But I fish alone and have a bigger boat that has lots of sail built into the wheelhouse and using braid is now starting to downright spook me.

Last summer I fought a fish for well over half an hour in a 10 knot steady blow. Even with a 25 Hp Hi-Thrust Yamaha the fish got under the boat just as I was close to finally seeing color. Once he busted that move I saw I was way too close to the rocks to attempt a walk out to the bow to clear the line. He took off on another crazy run….the braid passed over the keel of the boat and finally hooked up on the edge of a GT-51 Thru-hull transducer and that was it. The fish broke off, the braid would not budge where it had hooked up and I had to limp into a bay where I cleared at least 20 meters of that nasty stuff off my trim tabs, my swim step ladder, my transom mounted transducers and both my Suzuki props. That night I did laps around the rosary beads thanking the good Lord for allowing the braid to spin fairly easily off the props and not damage the seals. I could see how close I’d come to disaster because I was literally in the middle of nowhere

So last night I was fighting a spring in a gong show of other boats. Like a major gong show. You know the type—-yakking on cell phones, oblivious to what’s going on around them; 50 footers in amount the pack with liquored up types moseying through the fleet as if they owned the joint. I don’t do the “fish-on!” shriek fest under those circumstance not do I start waving a net. For some of those guys, seeing a guy waving a net is like a red cape. Hey, let’s go over there …looks fishy!

I just do my best to keep my boat between these types and the fish I’m fighting

Trouble was I was doing this in a thick wad of lettuce. My line was hung with big fronds of it, the stuff was so thick from the incoming tide that when I got the fish up close for the net job I hesitated waiting to at least see what I was netting. That was a bad move. The fish immediately took off under the boat. Before I could fire up the Suzukis to try and back away from the fish of course, the braid once again found the leading edge of my through-hull and instantly stuck. The fish broke off and I had no way of knowing just how much braid was still hanging under my boat

Crossing my fingers I did a 20 minute run back to the dock. This morning I inspected the Suzuki props. They spun freely, no visuals of braid in there. But I had a nagging suspicion there had to be more braid stuck under my boat

I took a boat hook, extended the handle, ran it under the boat where I figured the transducer’s ugly face was hanging and boom, I struck pay dirt when I felt resistance. I got this wad out. There might be more and hopefully it’ll stay out of my prop until I get the boat back on a trailer

At this point I’m tempted to go back to old-school mono knowing how that braid could easily have spun up into the Suzukis and killed the summer

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Braid is certainly NOT more abrasion resistant than mono. Fishing under 100' I would choose mono 100% of the time. Fishing deeper its a benefit due to the low stretch. Mono has give that keeps hooks in big fish shaking their heads. I LOVE 30# Ande envy green mono for landing big springs, tough with the right amount of stretch.
 
Braid is certainly NOT more abrasion resistant than mono. Fishing under 100' I would choose mono 100% of the time. Fishing deeper its a benefit due to the low stretch. Mono has give that keeps hooks in big fish shaking their heads. I LOVE 30# Ande envy green mono for landing big springs, tough with the right amount of stretch.
Me too. I’ve been using Ande 30 on mainline for 30 years
 
I’ve been using braid (with top shot) on my mooching reels for over 25 years. It’s nice to be able to feel every headshake of the fish. I always leave the motor in gear until we are about to net the fish.

I find mono feels too spongy when I do wind in a fish on a buddy’s rod.

Pro: braid lasts for years. No stretch.

Cons: Not great for beginners.
 
I'm with MikeP... I have a 'rather long' top shot of about 80 -100 feet, which means most of the near-boat play is just mono...
 
Two fish last night….both once again went under the boat. Big wind, surrounded by boats. Both times I pegged the T-25 into reverse to the point where it came out of the water but it got the job done and I put both fish in the net.

I always go to neutral when hooked-up. Part of the reason—-I fish with a dog and for beach runs so she can do her business, I have an inflatable raft strapped to the port gunnel. So….I’m forced to always net on the starboard side. Makes for some interesting maneuvers but I always return to neutral to keep the fish mid-ships starboard

Thanks for the tip on the Ande Envy Green…never tried that brand before

Meanwhile, the new puppy got her first taste of blood last night….

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think you need an auto pilot ... just to keep you tracking in a straight direction knocking into neutral in the crowds not a good idea and if your close to rocks shore ... always tack out into open water .... i fish solo a lot and one thing is learn to play the fish further away from the boat so they dont have the spunk to go mad at the boat get at least a 6' handle on the net .... lot of folks drag'em in asap great if you got a buddie on board... not good as your finding out with fish still with plenty of fight ... what length rods you using ??? used braid for 40 yrs run a 20'-30' top shot of mono and dont have to many issues sometimes just go to just lead them in and know sometime just let them have some line
 
Top shot would solve this problem for sure. I start with 75' and can handle a couple short chops off of it before changing it out. I even run them on my jigging setups now so I can throw those rods in the riggers if need be.
 
think you need an auto pilot ... just to keep you tracking in a straight direction knocking into neutral in the crowds not a good idea and if your close to rocks shore ... always tack out into open water .... i fish solo a lot and one thing is learn to play the fish further away from the boat so they dont have the spunk to go mad at the boat get at least a 6' handle on the net .... lot of folks drag'em in asap great if you got a buddie on board... not good as your finding out with fish still with plenty of fight ... what length rods you using ??? used braid for 40 yrs run a 20'-30' top shot of mono and dont have to many issues sometimes just go to just lead them in and know sometime just let them have some line
I use a 10’6 Sage; that length has many times allowed me to clear the keel and legs of the outboards if a fish goes under the boat. But sometimes it doesn’t. I’ve always used a 5 meter top shot…I’ll try doubling that length … I’m guessing heavier gauge mono won’t stick to the leading edge of the thru-hull the way braid does …too bad it’s such a good transducer…. If it was junky I’d pull it and install a flush mount
 
I use a 10’6 Sage; that length has many times allowed me to clear the keel and legs of the outboards if a fish goes under the boat. But sometimes it doesn’t. I’ve always used a 5 meter top shot…I’ll try doubling that length … I’m guessing heavier gauge mono won’t stick to the leading edge of the thru-hull the way braid does …too bad it’s such a good transducer…. If it was junky I’d pull it and install a flush mount
Can you add some JB Weld so it doesn't get snagged so easily?
 
Interesting opinions on this topic. I ran mono for many years and got tired of the stretch it has, especially when you’re trying to land a bigger fish from 200’ or deeper in some cases. After the initial couple runs and the mono is stretched out, the fish turns and it’s almost impossible to get back enough line when you’re accounting for the stretch and the distance the fish has swam towards you. Now running braid and a 30’ top shot of mono, the results speak for themselves, even fishing shallower water. If your drag is set correctly you should be relying on the sensitivity of the rod to absorb the head shakes, not the stretch in your mono. As mentioned I think a braid setup is for more experienced anglers, not to say that the experienced guys commenting on this thread are wrong and wouldn’t be able to use braid, it’s just what some people are used to. And to objectively look at the characteristics of how mono and braid are constructed and say that braid isn’t more abrasion resistant is ridiculous. Multiple independent strands
of fibre woven together to create redundancy in failure and abrasion, compared to one extruded piece of monofilament that breaks the second it’s heated or knicked.

That’s just my two cents based on my experience. I can’t remember a time that I had a fish on that got wrapped around something with mono and didn’t snap off and the same situations with braid has not yielded the same result. Much the same as sharphooks has mentioned.
 
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Braid needs top shot of mono anyway, downrigger clip doesn't grab tight enough on the thinner diameter line. And braid comes into its own when fishing below 150 ft, strikes from small fish on mono at that depth are so light and subtle as to be nearly invisible.
 
30' of 30 # Fluorocarbon, 100' of 65# spiderwire braid for depth, then 50 # color metered tuffline braid for distance.
 
All good points on pro vs cons on braid. It certainly has its place. All of my offshore reels are spooled with it and a mono top shot. I use hollow braid for a knotless splice. Braid allows for more capacity on smaller reels so its worth it because of that. For salmon specially targeting big fish in shallow water I still feel the mono gives you an edge. About 10 years ago we had a really big fish wrap my buddies rigger cable. The mono survived the dismount, damaged but intact. We landed that fish, I'm not sure it would have happened on braid.

As for lifespan I'm one of those guys that respools all of his reels with fresh mono before going up north. Mono is good for one summer of big fish hunting then its toast. When I used to guide I would strip and respool every 3 weeks...
 
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