And cultureRight on people,, good on all you for standing up for this cause.
Like I’ve said before this is much larger than just being able to take home a couple fish for supper. This is about families, jobs and businesses.
BaaaaaarfGreat job guys and a special thumbs up to Jason Tonelli! But I think we are fighting an uphill battle with this DFO Minister and with the people who have his ear.
PLEASE READ THIS - I couldn't make the protest today so I figured I would call Wilkinson's office today at 12:30 and ask to speak with him on the off chance he would take the call. A pleasant sounding lady answered the phone and told me he was in Ottawa - I explained why I was calling and that I was frustrated with their recent Chinook decisions and would like a call back. In any case, we started talking and I commented that I wouldn't bore her with my thoughts as she probably was not part of the decision making process. She countered that she does talk with the minister about these issues and encouraged the conversation to proceed. So I stated the lack of science, how frustrating it was that we can't even keep a hatchery marked fish, mentioned several times the nets in the rivers, and then started to talk about the futility of targeting the rec fishing sector on upcoming SRKW decisions. All in all we talked close to 20 minutes. This very polite and proper lady who has Mr. Wilkinson's ear said some very strange things during our conversation that tell me we are in for some more hurting with these Liberals in power.
Specifically and in chronological order,
- on the topic of retaining hatchery fish she started going on about how returning hatchery fish are important as they are used for breed stock for future generations (I am not making this up)
- she touted the closure of the Atlantic Cod fishery and its subsequent recovery as evidence that sometimes temporary suffering is needed.
- every time I mentioned nets in the river she countered that it was important not to point fingers and that we must all work together to save salmon stocks or there will be nothing left.
- she went off on a Trudeau like tangent about how natives have not been historically treated fairly by European settlers and that wrongs must be reversed.
- regarding the protest, she mentioned it in passing with a dismissive voice and was a little irritated when someone was trying to put a sticker on the window.
- Then to my COMPLETE AND UTTER DISBELIEF she said "that maybe it is time that in order to protect the environment we all take a step back, take a look at the big picture, stop fishing altogether and become vegetarians. Now that is easier for me to say as I am already a vegetarian" I ALMOST FELL OUT OF MY CHAIR WHEN SHE SAID THIS.
The conversation ended politely as she had to go and there was no point talking much as I could see she had a preset opinion on everything and viewed anything contrary to her world view in a dismissive manner.
In any case I wanted to take the time to share this experience so you have an idea of what we are up against. You may not like the Conservatives, but from what I can see we will never be fishing for Chinook with the Liberals holding government. So this fall pick your poison carefully when you vote and chose the dose you can live with.
Strength in unity.
Great job guys and a special thumbs up to Jason Tonelli! But I think we are fighting an uphill battle with this DFO Minister and with the people who have his ear.
PLEASE READ THIS - I couldn't make the protest today so I figured I would call Wilkinson's office today at 12:30 and ask to speak with him on the off chance he would take the call. A pleasant sounding lady answered the phone and told me he was in Ottawa - I explained why I was calling and that I was frustrated with their recent Chinook decisions and would like a call back. In any case, we started talking and I commented that I wouldn't bore her with my thoughts as she probably was not part of the decision making process. She countered that she does talk with the minister about these issues and encouraged the conversation to proceed. So I stated the lack of science, how frustrating it was that we can't even keep a hatchery marked fish, mentioned several times the nets in the rivers, and then started to talk about the futility of targeting the rec fishing sector on upcoming SRKW decisions. All in all we talked close to 20 minutes. This very polite and proper lady who has Mr. Wilkinson's ear said some very strange things during our conversation that tell me we are in for some more hurting with these Liberals in power.
Specifically and in chronological order,
- on the topic of retaining hatchery fish she started going on about how returning hatchery fish are important as they are used for breed stock for future generations (I am not making this up)
- she touted the closure of the Atlantic Cod fishery and its subsequent recovery as evidence that sometimes temporary suffering is needed.
- every time I mentioned nets in the river she countered that it was important not to point fingers and that we must all work together to save salmon stocks or there will be nothing left.
- she went off on a Trudeau like tangent about how natives have not been historically treated fairly by European settlers and that wrongs must be reversed.
- regarding the protest, she mentioned it in passing with a dismissive voice and was a little irritated when someone was trying to put a sticker on the window.
- Then to my COMPLETE AND UTTER DISBELIEF she said "that maybe it is time that in order to protect the environment we all take a step back, take a look at the big picture, stop fishing altogether and become vegetarians. Now that is easier for me to say as I am already a vegetarian" I ALMOST FELL OUT OF MY CHAIR WHEN SHE SAID THIS.
The conversation ended politely as she had to go and there was no point talking much as I could see she had a preset opinion on everything and viewed anything contrary to her world view in a dismissive manner.
In any case I wanted to take the time to share this experience so you have an idea of what we are up against. You may not like the Conservatives, but from what I can see we will never be fishing for Chinook with the Liberals holding government. So this fall pick your poison carefully when you vote and chose the dose you can live with.
Strength in unity.
While I would LOVE to believe that canning the Liberals would solve everything, Pat, I look back at DFO's record for the past 30 years and see no better management decisions made by them during that time. I know you have more knowledge of the political side of the coin, and perhaps you can comment. I guess the question that comes to my mind is; "Since after the first round of salmon enhancement in the late 70's, has DFO ever made actually improved salmon recovery, or have they just cut back and added more regulation on the public fishery?"I think I would be much more inclined to point the finger at this Liberal Government and their ENGO buddies....DFO is simply following their direction. If anybody needs to be canned, its the Liberals.
Are you kidding me...
Are we allowed to fish for Vegetarians Liberals? Certainly it would have to be C&R, as I am convinced they would taste like sh*t...........- Then to my COMPLETE AND UTTER DISBELIEF she said "that maybe it is time that in order to protect the environment we all take a step back, take a look at the big picture, stop fishing altogether and become vegetarians. Now that is easier for me to say as I am already a vegetarian" I ALMOST FELL OUT OF MY CHAIR WHEN SHE SAID THIS.
Strength in unity.
" Doug Edmunds;
Reply to @George Rooney: FN's JUST got license LAST YEAR to sell commercially.
That means every year before last, has been completely "white-man" fishing.. and look how that worked. And now that the fish is over commercial fished, and feeder stocks are destabilized (cannot keep taking what we do without limits and not allowing regrowth just like farms rotate their crops and fields to not strip all the nutrients) you want to try and blame FN's?
Laughable
The letter shows how much closed door planning happens between the DFO and FRAFSOh my god the comments. UGH!
I guess DFO finally admitted that it was FRAFS that insisted on this closure.
Is this letter public?The letter shows how much closed door planning happens between the DFO and FRAFS
Great job guys and a special thumbs up to Jason Tonelli! But I think we are fighting an uphill battle with this DFO Minister and with the people who have his ear.
PLEASE READ THIS - I couldn't make the protest today so I figured I would call Wilkinson's office today at 12:30 and ask to speak with him on the off chance he would take the call. A pleasant sounding lady answered the phone and told me he was in Ottawa - I explained why I was calling and that I was frustrated with their recent Chinook decisions and would like a call back. In any case, we started talking and I commented that I wouldn't bore her with my thoughts as she probably was not part of the decision making process. She countered that she does talk with the minister about these issues and encouraged the conversation to proceed. So I stated the lack of science, how frustrating it was that we can't even keep a hatchery marked fish, mentioned several times the nets in the rivers, and then started to talk about the futility of targeting the rec fishing sector on upcoming SRKW decisions. All in all we talked close to 20 minutes. This very polite and proper lady who has Mr. Wilkinson's ear said some very strange things during our conversation that tell me we are in for some more hurting with these Liberals in power.
Specifically and in chronological order,
- on the topic of retaining hatchery fish she started going on about how returning hatchery fish are important as they are used for breed stock for future generations (I am not making this up)
- she touted the closure of the Atlantic Cod fishery and its subsequent recovery as evidence that sometimes temporary suffering is needed.
- every time I mentioned nets in the river she countered that it was important not to point fingers and that we must all work together to save salmon stocks or there will be nothing left.
- she went off on a Trudeau like tangent about how natives have not been historically treated fairly by European settlers and that wrongs must be reversed.
- regarding the protest, she mentioned it in passing with a dismissive voice and was a little irritated when someone was trying to put a sticker on the window.
- Then to my COMPLETE AND UTTER DISBELIEF she said "that maybe it is time that in order to protect the environment we all take a step back, take a look at the big picture, stop fishing altogether and become vegetarians. Now that is easier for me to say as I am already a vegetarian" I ALMOST FELL OUT OF MY CHAIR WHEN SHE SAID THIS.
The conversation ended politely as she had to go and there was no point talking much as I could see she had a preset opinion on everything and viewed anything contrary to her world view in a dismissive manner.
In any case I wanted to take the time to share this experience so you have an idea of what we are up against. You may not like the Conservatives, but from what I can see we will never be fishing for Chinook with the Liberals holding government. So this fall pick your poison carefully when you vote and chose the dose you can live with.
Strength in unity.