2015 Halibut Regulations
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drpower
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who are you talking about
drpower
Active Member
I have to talk them into fish by that point. Lots of greedy people out there. Some people have millions of dollars while others starve, some people catch tons of fish, more than they need. The whole reason we're here talking about this is because a greedy old man took our part of the quota somehow... I guess another greedy old man decided it was his to sell.
spikeydave
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I do not see this as anything out of the norm. Unfortunately I myself have done that, not quite to that extent but am guilty. I have to come from another province and am lucky to get out maybe once or twice a year. Out of those outings I may get 2-3 days on the water. Out of those 2-3 I am lucky to get offshore to halibut grounds maybe 1-2 times. I know for the money I have spent and the time I have available I am not keeping a first catch 10-15lb halibut. I am going to put in my time to try for something in the 30-50lb range. If the regs allowed us 2 per day, possession of 2 then I would gladly keep an under and would most likely keep another under giving me some meat to go home with. Me and my family enjoy halibut and 1 small chicken barely feeds the 4 of us. I know of many that travel out and spend thousands per year on fishing trips and most of the time we average 1 halibut to take home in a 3 day trip.
trophywife
Crew Member
one of the more ridiculous rules is the one per day,,this should be changed. well pointed out by i believe almost everyone i fish with or talk in length about the regs...nothin better than going out to the banks and getting yer under and yer salmon, then throw down the anchor and go for the over!!
people do pay alot, travel, and risk alot weather wise to only keep 1 per day. dumbest rule IMHO..
if the limit is six which i have no problem with, and the possession limit is two, if you could get them in one trip , it would save upgrading waste,, if the mort rate is as bad as stated....
people do pay alot, travel, and risk alot weather wise to only keep 1 per day. dumbest rule IMHO..
if the limit is six which i have no problem with, and the possession limit is two, if you could get them in one trip , it would save upgrading waste,, if the mort rate is as bad as stated....
SerengetiGuide
Well-Known Member
Appreciate the response Deryk. 3.7% Mortality, so 30k or so.
Didn't quite answer the question though, mine was if there is once again over 100k left in the water, will you call it a successful season/regulations (despite for a third straight year being over restricted) come December? Yes or no is all. Searun? Fishtofino? Probably won't answer, but would be interesting to hear.
searun
Well-Known Member
Seasons already a success. We opened Feb 1. We got same TAC as last year despite IPHC science recommending 25 percent less. We got that because unlike others at the table Canada can demonstrate a proven track record of responsible and trusted management of the fishery. This is about seeing the big picture not making decisions that help charter guys market barn door fish to pad their businesses. So success will be achieving the mandate given to SFAB from local committees. Don't lose sight of the fact that we were only about 5 percent under when other factors are taken into account. That is a slim margin on a TAC we cannot carry over or exceed without closing the fishery once we bump up against it.
Dont know, just seems that all you are interested in is creating arguments so we can waste more energy, I'm done with it. Time to move on Dave and spend your energy organizing a lobby to increase the recreational share of available TAC. That would be constructive and if that happened I would deem the season to be successful.
What is success to you, carrying on the argument for as long as possible?
Dont know, just seems that all you are interested in is creating arguments so we can waste more energy, I'm done with it. Time to move on Dave and spend your energy organizing a lobby to increase the recreational share of available TAC. That would be constructive and if that happened I would deem the season to be successful.
What is success to you, carrying on the argument for as long as possible?
SerengetiGuide
Well-Known Member
Thanks for the responses. Just want questions answered, and finally got that one answered. Perfect. And no vertebrae is broken if you'd pay attention to how c and r.
Not about lengthening argument at all pat. More about figuring out the logic behind a decision that hurts rec anglers as much as it helps them. We will see this year who is right and if the trend is correct. If we end up with something like under 40k left over id admit I was wrong. Hopefully you'd do the same should there be more.
It will be even more difficult to get more tac when we leave around 400k in the water over two years. All a politician has to say is you didn't even use your quota you were given, why do you need more. Makes it so much easier to say no to us because of that.
Not about lengthening argument at all pat. More about figuring out the logic behind a decision that hurts rec anglers as much as it helps them. We will see this year who is right and if the trend is correct. If we end up with something like under 40k left over id admit I was wrong. Hopefully you'd do the same should there be more.
It will be even more difficult to get more tac when we leave around 400k in the water over two years. All a politician has to say is you didn't even use your quota you were given, why do you need more. Makes it so much easier to say no to us because of that.
It is quite the opposite David. It shows that the recreational sector can if allowed to...design their own fishing plans when needed and the bureaucrats will have faith that we know what is best and will allow us that input. Better that then having them design something on their own which in the past has been far worse.
Derby
Crew Member
What we do is not perfect bye any means..but remember Canada has received around 6 million more pounds over the blue book value over that time period ...... Its all about we the sport fisherman of Canadian getting its fair share of the total tac..15/85 just doesn't work....PERIOD
SerengetiGuide
Well-Known Member
Agree with the last sentence immensely. 20-25% is more what we should have. Hell, even with 18% and 7mill we would get a full season with one any size. I still think we have shot ourselves in the foot in regards to getting more though. And very strongly believe that if we are going to take such a conservative approach where every single year we have a decent sized amount kept in water we should implement carry over. I realize the opposite side of that but with an ultra cautious approach it doesn't even matter
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One of the worse things that we still haven't dealt with is the "experimental .licence"
This transfer mechanism has to be abolished....plain and simple.
I for one do attend meetings and conference calls so I can't say the status quo for this years regulations was a suprise.
This transfer mechanism has to be abolished....plain and simple.
I for one do attend meetings and conference calls so I can't say the status quo for this years regulations was a suprise.
Clint r
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So, after the fiasco this thread became, I took some members advice and tried to contact a SFAC member 2(weeks or more ago)and find out about where and when I could attend a meeting. Got an email last night at 8:45 telling me that a meeting for my area was being held at 9:00 am today, 145km from here. One way. Im not sure if that's typical, but no wonder that turnout at these things is so low. Pretty hard to get involved if that's the way we find out. I guess I can plan for the meeting being held in November. But seems to me as if they really did want locals to attend/participate, the notification of said meetings would allow some time to plan to attend. Again, not sure if this is typical but it certainly makes a guy wonder WTF? I'm right back where I started. Meetings need to be be local and times and locations need to be publicly announced . In the paper on the radio I don't know. But finding out there's something happening with such short notice and such a long way away is a sure way to keep attendance numbers low. Someone on the site posted in a different thread that the only way he could get involved was to voice his displeasure/opposition here in the hopes that DFO and others in the position to do something would read about it. Looks to me that for many, that is the only way they can get involved. I'll send copies of the emails to whoever doubts that this is what happened. Disappointing to say the least.
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