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Still don't get it i seeAd hominem attacks upon me do not change the science!
Still don't get it i seeAd hominem attacks upon me do not change the science!
Has there been any pushback,or has our area been written off by SFAB? Between this the RCA’s, Annual Spring non retention area, new April to August closures there essentially is nothing left. I’ve seen a little push back on the closure in Area 20, but crickets for Area 18 and 19.
On a different note.
If Sportsfisherman want to change the public perception that we are a significant contributor to the decline in salmon stocks, there needs to be a much smarter and co-ordinated communication strategy. Given money is an issue the focus should be on leveraging social media to do a big PR push regarding all that sportsfisherman do to help salmon stocks recover. A well implemented social media strategy that consolidates and motivates sportsfisherman to share images and stories that show our efforts and commitment to salmon stock recovery. Can go a long ways to get more support for Sportfisherman interests.
Last summer I pinged Owen Bird at SFIBC on why they were so quiet when DFO first issued their consideration to close the west coast of VI to salmon fishing. He did not seem to share my same sense of urgency, stating that
"Media campaigns can be expensive and it is important to develop a strategy that will be most effective. We are fortunate to be working with some veteran media experts and have been advised that launching an effort in the height of the busy season and summer would not be productive. "
Well those ENGO groups many of you seem to despise were very active during this time.
They are simply paving the way for the pipeline, by getting rid of the recreational boats they can increase the tanker travel. The other bonus is pressure off fish farms for DFO to deal with. Alberta is going to get their way and we can't stop it , Trudeau bought a pipeline and will get it done .
It’s always been that way. A dedicated few standing up for the majority who **** and moan about what they can’t have.The first step you all need to make is get off the keyboards and do something. There are lots of groups out there fighting for us and future generations. Some ***** about they don’t know where the money is going and won’t donate, but it is quiet clear where it’s going in writing. How about putting the $ you would be spending this year to fish towards fighting this ******** new regs etc. I went to the LFV-SFAC meeting and there were 10 people there. Considering everyone knew the regs were gonna be hit hard this year but nobody could get off their butt and show up. Some of the excuses I heard from my own friends for not coming I couldn’t believe were such BS.
The amount of energy spent on keyboard wars and excuses would go along way if used towards something that matters. Do a pub night, sell chocolates join a group just do something that matters. BTW I organized a pub night happening May 11 and out of 100 tickets sold 20 were to people from this forum. There’s a hell of a lot more guys in the LFV that are on this forum who ***** and complain and say they want to help, it is quiet clear to where the $ is going etc. Time to put your $ where your mouth is
I appreciate that, hence the question as opposed to a statement?Because u don't see something posted up here doesn't mean things are not being done .. this is politics
FYI, like your country the FN’s get priority access and that isn’t going to changeWhy dont we charge Americans way more to come up here to rape pillage our waters.
Really We spend $4000 a year for 2 weeks fishing in Port Renfrew. 2 weeks! I have never taken any fish or crab above my limit. I have fished for halibut but not caught one in 2 summers. The First Nations and seals should be addressed before your southern neighbors in my opinion. A license for a year with stamp is over $100 if you are interested
We do need to mobilize for a protest, but we need to get everyone involved. Not just sport fisherman what other businesses that are impacted by the closures. Right now we're only talking and we need to get this mobilized! Talk is cheap!I think we need disruptive protests in every town. Park our boats and trailers around the down town core of each town one day a week for one hour at a time. Create flotillas to block major waterways at the same time. Park boats all around the parliament building in Victoria Every Saturday with a different start time each week. This would get Canada wide media coverage plus have the benefit of having the provincial as well as every municipal government squawking at Ottawa to fix this problem now
I agree. I’ve suggested it already couple times but no takers and I can’t guarantee I’ll be here for it cause of workWe do need to mobilize for a protest, but we need to get everyone involved. Not just sport fisherman what other businesses that are impacted by the closures. Right now we're only talking and we need to get this mobilized! Talk is cheap!
We do need to mobilize for a protest, but we need to get everyone involved. Not just sport fisherman what other businesses that are impacted by the closures. Right now we're only talking and we need to get this mobilized! Talk is cheap!
Well I think we aren’t gonna get past that without being in the spotlight first. It’s already happened the regs are changed and no reversal.I am not saying there should not be. I just wonder how we get support from it wen it will be spun as wanting to put the industry ahead of critically low numbers of fish?
“Greedy sport fishers willing to kill the last fish before loosing business. “
After spending time on Various sites like VI fishing FB pages it is clear that even lots of Rec fishers have no clue as to the real facts and alternatives that where on the table. Hell, a year later and people are still arguing about weather yellow eye on the inside where closed last year or not
I can see the headlines.
“Angry sport fishers gather in protest of DFO’s decision to shut down the sport harvest of Chinook to protect the critically low projected returns to the Fraser River. “
Again not saying not to. Just have no clue how to get past that.
Fair point . I agree about getting the facts to the public.
Well I think we aren’t gonna get past that without being in the spotlight first. It’s already happened the regs are changed and no reversal.
We aren’t in the spotlight now and look what’s happened. Atleast if we were in the spotlight their is a chance to educate the public and provide facts and science. I know there’s a lot more to this but it’s obvious sitting at a table having meetings etc doesn’t mean **** to DFO or our govt in the end they will do whatever they want. That’s just my opinion but what do I know
I am not saying there should not be. I just wonder how we get support from it wen it will be spun as wanting to put the industry ahead of critically low numbers of fish?
“Greedy sport fishers willing to kill the last fish before loosing business. “
After spending time on Various sites like VI fishing FB pages it is clear that even lots of Rec fishers have no clue as to the real facts and alternatives that where on the table. Hell, a year later and people are still arguing about weather yellow eye on the inside where closed last year or not
Again not saying not to. Just have no clue how to get past that.
Please don't take these comments the wrong way, just trying to frame the situation and challenges so we don't get expectations set too high.I appreciate that, hence the question as opposed to a statement?