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For salmon, a deadly sea

A landmark migration study on the West Coast that tracked thousands of young salmon as they swam down rivers and then went out to sea has upended one of the longest-held tenets of fisheries science.

Until David Welch and his colleagues surgically implanted more than 3,500 young salmon with electronic tags, it had been believed the high mortality afflicting salmon happened mostly in river estuaries as fish made the transition from fresh to salt water.

But Dr. Welch, president of Nanaimo-based Kintama Research Services Ltd., said an array of listening posts strung for more than 1,500 kilometres along the coast allowed researchers to follow the fish as they migrated out of B.C. rivers and headed north, swimming an average of 20 kilometres a day.

“The scientific body for a century has said the marine survival problems are happening very early in the life history. Now we are measuring that and saying, ‘Sorry, it doesn’t look like that.’ Most of the mortality is happening more than a month after entering the ocean,” said Dr. Welch, who published new research on the subject this week after gathering data for several years.

The study made use of a marine telemetry array called POST, for Pacific Ocean Shelf Tracking, which picks up signals from electronic tags surgically placed inside the body cavities of young salmon, most of which are about 150 millimetres in length when released.

Once in the ocean, the main body of fish headed up Georgia Strait, on the east coast of Vancouver Island, while a smaller number went out Juan de Fuca Strait and up the west coast of the island.

The fish – sockeye, steelhead, coho and chinook – mostly survived the early stages of their migration and were tracked for four to six weeks until they were lost after passing the last POST array.

“Most of the mortality happened beyond the north end of Vancouver Island. Now, whether they dropped dead from sea lice one day past where we [last] measured them or some other disease problem, or whether it was some place two years out in the ocean, we can’t resolve that – it’s just that we know most of the mortality happened beyond the Strait of Georgia, in the Queen Charlotte Sound area,” Dr. Welch said.

The study estimates one-eighth of the mortality occurred in Georgia Strait and seven-eighths occurred after passing northern Vancouver Island.

There has been speculation that fish farms, which are concentrated in ocean channels near the northern end of Vancouver Island, might be exposing migrating wild fish to sea lice and disease.

But Dr. Welch said his study doesn’t shed any light on that controversy.

“I do want to emphasize that our results do not say the fish farms did play a role, it’s just that the fish passed the salmon farms and at some point after that, died,” he said.

Dr. Welch said he is currently helping to design a study that will use the electronic-tag technology to directly examine the issue of whether migrating salmon are impacted by fish farms.

A small number of the tagged salmon carried extra batteries, which were turned off after about a month and then turned on again two years later. Among that group, two fish were picked up again by the POST array when they returned as adults.

Dr. Welch said it was an exciting development, because it revealed the remarkable synchronicity of migrating salmon. Heading north, the two fish left Georgia Strait one week apart – two years later they returned to Vancouver Island only 12 hours apart, and within two hours of each other re-entered the Fraser River.

Dr. Welch gave a partial preview of his research to the Cohen Commission earlier this year, but the detailed paper was published this week in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States.
 
So, how long does it take for death to occur after abnormal infestation of Sea lice or disease? Given they are traveling 20 k per day? Has anyone studied mortality regarding surgical implantation of foreign bodies in smolts?
Smoke and mirrors.........
 
Yup-- thats it-- all science is "smoke and mirrors" And did you know that the earth is flat too????? Sheesh!
 
So you call an incomplete and mostly speculative study, "science"? Logically, tagged and monitored fish must be followed for much longer, then the areas and possibly way of their demise could be more closely determined. Money spent on test netting well on either side of the fish farms would make more sense.

{Quote} ......“Most of the mortality happened beyond the north end of Vancouver Island. Now, whether they dropped dead from sea lice one day past where we [last] measured them or some other disease problem, or whether it was some place two years out in the ocean, we can’t resolve that – it’s just that we know most of the mortality happened beyond the Strait of Georgia, in the Queen Charlotte Sound area,” .........

Are you upset because your copy and paste article came up lame?
 
I didn't see in the article if they monitored the ones which went up the west coast of the island, and if so did the same mortality pattern occur?
 
....Has anyone studied mortality regarding surgical implantation of foreign bodies in smolts?

Of course they have-that's why it's a scientifically accepted method to study smolts.

I have hint for you fella-before you come on here and embarrass yourself in front of everyone learn to use something called Google -you might even learn something.

Or not.......
 
You beat me to it Dogbreath. This study is not just a quick masters thesis paper. a major component studies the survivals of Columbia River salmon. It has also been used to look at survivals of Cultus sockeye http://www.nrcresearchpress.com/doi/pdf/10.1139/F09-032 to keep it simple for people like Just Fish I copied a article from the Globe and Mail. Most people SHOULD be able to understand that--- apparently not all.
 
Oh gosh i have offended some senior clique members with questions that may need to be asked, given the startling success of past and present studies which have saved the fish for us.
 
Oh gosh i have offended some senior clique members with questions that may need to be asked, given the startling success of past and present studies which have saved the fish for us.
You have embarrassed yourself by shooting off your mouth without doing any research-as anyone reading your contributions here can see.

It's easy for someone to sit back and snipe @ people who actually do the work especially someone with a famously dim view of how research is done.

And in case you wondered it's not science that's led to the destruction of natural resources but human nature.
 
Great post Cuba about a truly amazing and irreplaceable animal and some of the science behind the efforts to save it.

It's typical for net-pen industry apologists to scramble for any and all available windows of opportunity to vindicate the tragic destruction the salmon farmers wreak on our coast.

This important work is but one component in the ongoing war to save Pacific salmon and expose our collusive politicians and the fish-farmers for what they really are.
 
Pretty amazing really. Goes to show you those fish are hard wired to come back with exact timing to their native streams. A small miracle. Now the real interesting scientific next step would be to get more listening posts up and running further north into Alaska and the Aleutian Islands. This would tell the story for us about where the mortality takes place. May not help us sort out if the disease and sea lice contracted from the salmon farms is the culprit, but would start narrowing the focus for sure.
 
I really wouldn’t say… and there is really nothing “smoke and mirrors” about POST? Might want to start doing somer eading on that?
http://postprogram.org/page.php?section=community&page=publications

The mortality of smolts really isn’t an issue:
Overall, short term (<1 month) mortality and tag loss following surgical implantation was minimal for 9 mm dummy acoustic transmitters implanted into smolts ≥140 mmFL and weighing 5.210.4% of the body weight. The short term effects of the smaller 7 mm transmitter on tag retention and mortality were negligible for smolts ≥130 mm FL implanted with 7 mm dummy transmitters, and weighing 2.87.6% of the weight of the fish. Therefore,estimates of survival of migrating smolts over long distances and up to one month are reasonable within these size limitations.

Medium term (3090 d) mortality and tag loss was minimal for Dworshak smolts tagged with both transmitter sizes.Yakima smolts tagged with 9 mm transmitters were more susceptible to medium term tag loss, but nearly three months postimplantation 84% of the tags were still retained. We believe that the 16% tag loss may have been due to the sutures tearing through the skin, leaving a large open wound through which the transmitter could escape.While conducting surgeries we noticed that the skin and musculature of the bodywall of Yakima smolts was much thinner and more delicate than what we observedin the more robust Dworshak population, and this may have made fish more susceptible to chafing by the sutures. Further, we noted that 60% of the Yakima DAT tagged fish had one suture that had either ripped out or was visibly ripping through the skin 86 days postsurgery. Tag loss and mortality, however, were not a function of size (i.e., smaller fish no more susceptible than larger fish), and damage did not appear to be caused by the transmitter pushing against sutures (see Figures 2.5 b, c).
https://circle.ubc.ca/bitstream/handle/2429/23349/ubc_2010_spring_rechisky_erin.pdf?sequence=11

Just a couple of the many articles that have come about due to POST, and you might find this one really interesting? J

Sea Louse Infection of Juvenile Sockeye Salmon in Relation to Marine Salmon Farmson Canada’s West Coast

Check out Figure 4. Sea louse abundance over time on Atlantic salmon on named salmon farms in the Discovery Islands. Legend:Caligus clemensi at top, and Lepeophtheirus salmonis at bottom. Period of sockeye collection during 2007 and 2008 in shaded grey. doi:10.1371/journal.pone.0016851.g004
http://www.farmedanddangerous.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Price-etal-2011_Sockeye-louse-infection_PLoS-ONE.pdf

Insitu measurement of coastal ocean movements and survival of juvenile Pacificsalmon
http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2011/05/10/1014044108.full.pdf
 
Wonder what the fish farm supporters/hacks will have to say about this info that Charlie has posted? Leaving the net pens empty when the local fish migrate by is not good enough as they pollute and infest continuously when they are full throughout the rest of the year!
 
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