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I agree, LL. However, it's an op ed - just an opinion.

I think it would be great however - if we address the lies & misinformation online. I also think it's long overdue to have both professional certification for news providers - as well as personal, professional accreditation for news people. That way we can more easily differentiate between "out there" personal opinions and propaganda verses more trustworthy news sources.

In this specific case - the op ed author failed to declare her biases easily found at:
https://www.cherylchumley.com/

and she is part of this organization as well:
https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Fund_for_American_Studies
 
I agree, LL. However, it's an op ed - just an opinion.

I think it would be great however - if we address the lies & misinformation online. I also think it's long overdue to have both professional certification for news providers - as well as personal, professional accreditation for news people. That way we can more easily differentiate between "out there" personal opinions and propaganda verses more trustworthy news sources.

In this specific case - the op ed author failed to declare her biases easily found at:
https://www.cherylchumley.com/

and she is part of this organization as well:
https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Fund_for_American_Studies
Bang on AA. For years I’ve found it’s important to know the who wrote the article and what possible spin they might put on it. We see it all the time where facts are cherry picked, claims are made to support hypothesis and science is claimed to support their conclusion. Nothing specific just a generalization of who specifically supports their claim. The curse of social media.
 
B.C. to relax COVID-19 rules later than most other provinces — but it had fewer to begin with

Premier John Horgan expected to reveal next phase of pandemic strategy on Wednesday
Justin McElroy · CBC News · Posted: May 04, 2020

For much of the COVID-19 pandemic, B.C. has been a bit of an outlier — and is likely to remain so.

The province is set this week to announce its strategy and timeline for easing restrictions put in place to combat COVID-19. But much like its strategy over the past two months in containing outbreaks and limiting freedoms, B.C.'s strategy for opening up the province will differ from much of Canada.

First, nothing will "reopen" this week: Premier John Horgan is expected to outline the broad strokes of B.C.'s plan on Wednesday, but it won't be until the middle of the month before things take effect. And, rather than delivering a long list of which stores should open, the province will instead give guidelines to industries that may have voluntarily closed over the past two months. That's despite British Columbia having a lower hospitalization rate than Alberta, Ontario or Quebec, all of which have already announced reopening plans.

While some guidelines for individuals are expected to be issued — specifics on how many people can attend a dinner party are being discussed, for example — the focus will be on giving people broad rules for how they can safely practise a "new normal", as Health Minister Adrian Dix as put it, until a vaccine is found.

All the while, the province's emergency powers will allow it to continue shutting down any business that fails to operate in a safe manner. However, because B.C. shut down relatively few activities to begin with — except for eating in restaurants, personal service providers like hairdressers or nail salons, and activities where more than 50 people are in the same area — the province has fewer things to reopen than many other parts of the country.

Still weeks away
Waiting an extra few weeks to begin reopening will provide the province greater confidence in avoiding an immediate relapse, epidemiology experts say.

"Different provinces are taking different approaches because there is no textbook for what we're going through," said Mohsen Sadatsafavi, a University of British Columbia professor specializing in disease modelling and projection.

"But we probably need to buy more time, because every day and every week that goes on, our models have more data to crunch to provide predictions on, and those intervals become narrower and narrower.

"And once they are narrow enough that both ends of the interval — either the pessimistic prediction and optimistic predictions are in the same neighbourhood — then you can have a mitigation policy."

Education over enforcement
The government's plan fits with its broad strategy throughout the pandemic of encouragement and education over enforcement.

The province continues to trend on the right path, says Daniel Coombs, a UBC mathematics professor who has been working with the provincial government in developing its projections.

B.C. has the fewest per capita deaths of any U.S. state or Canadian province with more than five million people.
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However, the province will likely continue having isolated outbreaks — similar to those at the Mission Institution and three Lower Mainland poultry plants — for some time to come.

"The key to continuing that good downward suppression is ... having the conditions to keep community transmission from popping back up again right," Coombs said.

The government has estimated that while contacts in B.C. are around 30 per cent of "normal", they could increase by up to 60 per cent by the end of May without causing a resurgence of the virus.

Government officials have told CBC News its strategy continues to be predicated on ensuring that any easing of restrictions keeps the province at below a 60 per cent contact level.

It's why Coombs says community transmission can remain low as some activities open back up — but people need to continue to use common sense around physical distancing and proper hygiene.

"Let's keep skirting around each other in the grocery store," he said.

"Let's do all those little things that we can to try to cut out a few transmissions here and there. They're all valuable, and that will allow other things potentially to open up which may be more important."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/bc-restrictions-next-phase-bonnie-henry-1.5553303
 
B.C. to relax COVID-19 rules later than most other provinces — but it had fewer to begin with

Premier John Horgan expected to reveal next phase of pandemic strategy on Wednesday
Justin McElroy · CBC News · Posted: May 04, 2020

For much of the COVID-19 pandemic, B.C. has been a bit of an outlier — and is likely to remain so.

The province is set this week to announce its strategy and timeline for easing restrictions put in place to combat COVID-19. But much like its strategy over the past two months in containing outbreaks and limiting freedoms, B.C.'s strategy for opening up the province will differ from much of Canada.

First, nothing will "reopen" this week: Premier John Horgan is expected to outline the broad strokes of B.C.'s plan on Wednesday, but it won't be until the middle of the month before things take effect. And, rather than delivering a long list of which stores should open, the province will instead give guidelines to industries that may have voluntarily closed over the past two months. That's despite British Columbia having a lower hospitalization rate than Alberta, Ontario or Quebec, all of which have already announced reopening plans.

While some guidelines for individuals are expected to be issued — specifics on how many people can attend a dinner party are being discussed, for example — the focus will be on giving people broad rules for how they can safely practise a "new normal", as Health Minister Adrian Dix as put it, until a vaccine is found.

All the while, the province's emergency powers will allow it to continue shutting down any business that fails to operate in a safe manner. However, because B.C. shut down relatively few activities to begin with — except for eating in restaurants, personal service providers like hairdressers or nail salons, and activities where more than 50 people are in the same area — the province has fewer things to reopen than many other parts of the country.

Still weeks away
Waiting an extra few weeks to begin reopening will provide the province greater confidence in avoiding an immediate relapse, epidemiology experts say.

"Different provinces are taking different approaches because there is no textbook for what we're going through," said Mohsen Sadatsafavi, a University of British Columbia professor specializing in disease modelling and projection.

"But we probably need to buy more time, because every day and every week that goes on, our models have more data to crunch to provide predictions on, and those intervals become narrower and narrower.

"And once they are narrow enough that both ends of the interval — either the pessimistic prediction and optimistic predictions are in the same neighbourhood — then you can have a mitigation policy."

Education over enforcement
The government's plan fits with its broad strategy throughout the pandemic of encouragement and education over enforcement.

The province continues to trend on the right path, says Daniel Coombs, a UBC mathematics professor who has been working with the provincial government in developing its projections.

B.C. has the fewest per capita deaths of any U.S. state or Canadian province with more than five million people.
EW94v7PUcAAsbTu

However, the province will likely continue having isolated outbreaks — similar to those at the Mission Institution and three Lower Mainland poultry plants — for some time to come.

"The key to continuing that good downward suppression is ... having the conditions to keep community transmission from popping back up again right," Coombs said.

The government has estimated that while contacts in B.C. are around 30 per cent of "normal", they could increase by up to 60 per cent by the end of May without causing a resurgence of the virus.

Government officials have told CBC News its strategy continues to be predicated on ensuring that any easing of restrictions keeps the province at below a 60 per cent contact level.

It's why Coombs says community transmission can remain low as some activities open back up — but people need to continue to use common sense around physical distancing and proper hygiene.

"Let's keep skirting around each other in the grocery store," he said.

"Let's do all those little things that we can to try to cut out a few transmissions here and there. They're all valuable, and that will allow other things potentially to open up which may be more important."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/bc-restrictions-next-phase-bonnie-henry-1.5553303
Sadly no matter what precautions we take, to a degree, we are at the mercy of neighbouring Provinces, States and Countries as long as our borders are open. Not suggesting we close our borders but as long as they are open, we are subject to exposure to people who may not have followed the same rules we are asking our people to follow.
 
That woman is a total wingnut!
Bang on AA. For years I’ve found it’s important to know the who wrote the article and what possible spin they might put on it. We see it all the time where facts are cherry picked, claims are made to support hypothesis and science is claimed to support their conclusion. Nothing specific just a generalization of who specifically supports their claim. The curse of social media.
 
I read it to mean refunds aren't happening, they're carrying the deposit over to next year. I'm not even certain that's legal...
Not sure of the legality either. Another way to look at it that happened to me several times.

Some guests booked a trip and 2,3,4 weeks before it they have a major medical situation and can't come. I generally didn't refund their deposit as our cancellation policy was 30 days. Instead of just keeping it i allowed then to apply it for the next year. It's a 2 way street
 
Bonnie said little league baseball will be a go this summer. Look a little different but a go. That’s a good sign. Shocked me to be honest.
 
 
Sadly no matter what precautions we take, to a degree, we are at the mercy of neighbouring Provinces, States and Countries as long as our borders are open. Not suggesting we close our borders but as long as they are open, we are subject to exposure to people who may not have followed the same rules we are asking our people to follow.
Good reason to encourage our friends from Alberta so we can travel back and forth with some degree of confidence we won't screw things up.
 
Lots opening up in bc that was closed near me, bike store is open, some Sushi restaurants now opening that were closed.

Lots more on the road so it would appear that lots of business are finding a way to open.
 
Sadly no matter what precautions we take, to a degree, we are at the mercy of neighbouring Provinces, States and Countries as long as our borders are open. Not suggesting we close our borders but as long as they are open, we are subject to exposure to people who may not have followed the same rules we are asking our people to follow.

Buddy has a cabin in the Shuswap area. He went up there this weekend to "open up for the summer". His cabin is pretty isolated, he can keep to himself. Spoke with some of the locals and apparently the last week there has been a massive influx of Albertans who also have summer properties. No way we can close the Provincial borders. Just have to hope that our neighbours to the East respect the guidelines as much as we do...
 
Buddy has a cabin in the Shuswap area. He went up there this weekend to "open up for the summer". His cabin is pretty isolated, he can keep to himself. Spoke with some of the locals and apparently the last week there has been a massive influx of Albertans who also have summer properties. No way we can close the Provincial borders. Just have to hope that our neighbours to the East respect the guidelines as much as we do...

From what I’ve been hearing I don’t think that will be an issue. My supervisor lives in Calgary but he and his wife have a condo in Kelowna. Last weekend they went out to the condo and on his return he was quite surprised at the attitude by people in the area. He said it’s nothing like in Calgary, it’s like people don’t have a clue as to what’s going on. No social distancing in the markets, people walking down the streets like nothing is going on. He and his wife felt quite uncomfortable with the way things were being done. If there is a concern it should be with the way the local people are conducting themselves. I’m sure this doesn’t include all areas in the province or in any of our provinces.
 
From what I’ve been hearing I don’t think that will be an issue. My supervisor lives in Calgary but he and his wife have a condo in Kelowna. Last weekend they went out to the condo and in his returns he was quite surprised at the attitude by people in the area. He said it’s nothing like in Calgary, it’s like people don’t have a clue as to what’s going on. No social distancing in the markets, people walking down the streets like nothing is going on. He and his wife felt quite uncomfortable with the way things were being done. If there is a concern it should be with the way the local people are conducting themselves.
I agree, if what your saying is true, I’d stay home in Calgary! Haven’t been to Kelowna recently but certainly where I live on the Island people are following the rules. Certainly if I go anywhere that makes me uncomfortable I just leave.
 
I agree, if what your saying is true, I’d stay home in Calgary! Haven’t been to Kelowna recently but certainly where I live on the Island people are following the rules. Certainly if I go anywhere that makes me uncomfortable I just leave.

Yes same in our town, people are very courteous and following the rules. People are going about their business but doing so following the rules and then some.
 
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