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A wee dram in the evening may help.:p
 
Birdsnest said:
So a good friend of mine whom I will not mention was onto the seriosness of Covid 19 at the top of January. He was following the issue closely and in full reaction mode before the start of February. The details of the this persons reaction are private.
The one detail which this person told me about when we first started lock down was the issues with ventilators and how there were better treatment options ie CPAP machine. Interesting that this has started to reach the news cycle now event tho the info was out there months ago.
Anyway this fella directed me to this Doctor that is following the pandemic at an international level. Lots of good info coming from this guy i believe. He's a doctor and giving information daily in a format that average guys like myself can understand. This is great info and free of partisan politics IMHO which is so important and being flopped here in North America.
Here is his post for April 24:
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That was better than anything I have seen on news this week. Thank for sharing.
 
Back down to 29 new cases yesterday. Finally got my island numbers: of the 114 total island cases, 81 have recovered. I like those numbers
 
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SpringVelocity said:
It is against the provincial health officer order flat out. It's not ridiculous. If you get caught you can be fined. It's selfish for the rest of us complying and too other members of the community. You can't social distance on a boat.
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Honestly I'm not sure how much of that are facts. Last time I checked there isn't an actual "order" that applies to us under the orders section of the gov't website. Link: https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/...rent-health-topics/covid-19-novel-coronavirus

The orders I see are for self-quarantine when travelling from another country or mass gatherings. Would you be so kind to lead me to where it says that there is an order about physical distancing? From what I can find physical distancing isn't an order enforceable with law. Don't get me wrong, I do understand the importance of social distancing. However I do think that we should really use our own discretion on this. If it's someone you've been talking to almost every day, and someone you know has nearly 0% chance of transmitting anything because they've been home and only home for a month, it is absolutely ridiculous to enforce physical distancing. If it's a group of friends that's a different story. I try to do my part to flatten the curve, but I will not follow blindly what everyone's telling me.
 
fisherman1313 said:
Honestly I'm not sure how much of that are facts. Last time I checked there isn't an actual "order" that applies to us under the orders section of the gov't website. Link: https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/...rent-health-topics/covid-19-novel-coronavirus

The orders I see are for self-quarantine when travelling from another country or mass gatherings. Would you be so kind to lead me to where it says that there is an order about physical distancing? From what I can find physical distancing isn't an order enforceable with law. Don't get me wrong, I do understand the importance of social distancing. However I do think that we should really use our own discretion on this. If it's someone you've been talking to almost every day, and someone you know has nearly 0% chance of transmitting anything because they've been home and only home for a month, it is absolutely ridiculous to enforce physical distancing. If it's a group of friends that's a different story. I try to do my part to flatten the curve, but I will not follow blindly what everyone's telling me.
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it’s “guidance” not an order you are correct I THINK lol
 
fisherman1313 said:
Honestly I'm not sure how much of that are facts. Last time I checked there isn't an actual "order" that applies to us under the orders section of the gov't website. Link: https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/...rent-health-topics/covid-19-novel-coronavirus

The orders I see are for self-quarantine when travelling from another country or mass gatherings. Would you be so kind to lead me to where it says that there is an order about physical distancing? From what I can find physical distancing isn't an order enforceable with law. Don't get me wrong, I do understand the importance of social distancing. However I do think that we should really use our own discretion on this. If it's someone you've been talking to almost every day, and someone you know has nearly 0% chance of transmitting anything because they've been home and only home for a month, it is absolutely ridiculous to enforce physical distancing. If it's a group of friends that's a different story. I try to do my part to flatten the curve, but I will not follow blindly what everyone's telling me.
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What is with guys today? Everyone moans on here you want to be like Sweden with looser restrictions, but then fishing is open with some rules attached that somehow a big deal. It's not closed like our Washington friends!! Your given info to remain social distancing to keep everyone fishing. You guys have all have been told it is same household, and to avoid essential travel. But still you want to break it, and try and find some way you can do it.

If you get fined no one feels for you. Lots of guiding businesses are struggling financially right now because they can't operate businesses to social distancing. How are you being fair to them?

Sorry to go on but I want fishing to stay open. Last thing we need is for more people to do what you are suggesting than it is closed for everyone.
 
Washington is only state in US that is closed to fishing. Just saying. And I believe now every jurisdiction in Canada is allowing fishing (possibly Ontario not true but thought they may have changed it)
 
SpringVelocity said:
What is with guys today? Everyone moans on here you want to be like Sweden with looser restrictions, but then fishing is open with some rules attached that somehow a big deal. It's not closed like our Washington friends!! Your given info to remain social distancing to keep everyone fishing. You guys have all have been told it is same household, and to avoid essential travel. But still you want to break it, and try and find some way you can do it.

If you get fined no one feels for you. Lots of guiding businesses are struggling financially right now because they can't operate businesses to social distancing. How are you being fair to them?

Sorry to go on but I want fishing to stay open. Last thing we need is for more people to do what you are suggesting than it is closed for everyone.
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It’s ridiculous to suggest 2 people couldn’t social distance on a 6-10 metre boat which is what people are saying. Also there is no proof anywhere that anyone can or has been fined for having someone on their boat that is not living under their roof. Perpetuating misinformation and urban myth does no one any good, that’s where I’m coming from and I’m sure many others. Guides are a totally different issue and should not be lumped in with pure recreational boating where another family member is taken fishing.
 
That's the problem people trying to look for gray area and that's what could get things potentially shut down for the worse wrecking it for everyone that was being reasonable and following direction. There's a sequence of events that's needs to happen prior to any sort of tours to start up. If one thinks they are going to roll into a small sportfishing town and no activity get noticed good luck, people will call you out guaranteed whether it's in person or a call to bylaw. Any visitors stick out like a sore thumb, would anyone want to subject their clients to potentially getting cold shouldered and lash back, I sure would not. I sure hope things change and we can get back to regular life or as close to but I think we have a ways to go and with continued business financial aid being rolled out I think that's a sign we have more waiting to do in the business world. In house family fishing will be great at least we can still enjoy fishing as a hobby right now.
 
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ziggy said:
It’s ridiculous to suggest 2 people couldn’t social distance on a 6-10 metre boat which is what people are saying. Also there is no proof anywhere that anyone can or has been fined for having someone on their boat that is not living under their roof. Perpetuating misinformation and urban myth does no one any good, that’s where I’m coming from and I’m sure many others. Guides are a totally different issue and should not be lumped in with pure recreational boating where another family member is taken fishing.
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I'm hopeful that extended family will be able to get together soon with out issue, I think it's safe to assume you can't fish and social distance as gear is shared etc, I know it seems over the top but it's a reality. What could happen if ramps are busy with mixed groups and if a municipality gets enough complaints is barricade it which would suck for those who are doing there part. Docks same thing people won't be allowed to moor there boat most likely would be harbour master enforced and if a blind eye was turned people would start making complaints where something would be done. It's super important everyone respects the rules as they are in hopes with observed compliance from the higher ups things open up more and more as the time moves forward.
 
I think they are going to have an impossible time trying to keep people on lock down in the months ahead.

I think they are gonna let us out for the summer and put us back down on lock down in September October.

Anyone paying attention to what’s happening down In Ecuador
 
wildmanyeah said:
I think they are going to have an impossible time trying to keep people on lock down in the months ahead.

I think they are gonna let us out for the summer and put us back down on lock down in September October.

Anyone paying attention to what’s happening down In Ecuador
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Summer lock down would be horrible, going stir crazy at it is at it's only been a tad over a month. What's happening in Ecuador?
 
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ziggy said:
It’s ridiculous to suggest 2 people couldn’t social distance on a 6-10 metre boat which is what people are saying. Also there is no proof anywhere that anyone can or has been fined for having someone on their boat that is not living under their roof. Perpetuating misinformation and urban myth does no one any good, that’s where I’m coming from and I’m sure many others. Guides are a totally different issue and should not be lumped in with pure recreational boating where another family member is taken fishing.
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I think it's perfectly accurate to say 2 people can't properly distance on a 30 foot boat. Too much shared gear, steering, small door into the cabin, the list goes on and on. I do think though that the risk is very minimal if you're taking precautions like not touching your face, washing hands, disinfecting surfaces and no making out. My wife disagrees but I think that like @uclueletcharters said if it's someone you know and can trust that they've been doing a good job distancing then even better. I think taking paid guests would never fly at this point.
 
uclueletcharters said:
I'm hopeful that extended family will be able to get together soon with out issue, I think it's safe to assume you can't fish and social distance as gear is shared etc, I know it seems over the top but it's a reality. What could happen if ramps are busy with mixed groups and if a municipality gets enough complaints is barricade it which would suck for those who are doing there part. Docks same thing people won't be allowed to moor there boat most likely would be harbour master enforced and if a blind eye was turned people would start making complaints where something would be done. It's super important everyone respects the rules as they are in hopes with observed compliance from the higher ups things open up more and more as the time moves forward.
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I guess I disagree that you can’t safely fish on a suitable sized boat. Yes, you may have to modify your behaviour, much like you have to do in a retail outlet, but a blanket order is very questionable. You may not be able to share fishing gear like you used to, but that’s an easy problem to overcome. Either don’t share, fish your own gear, or wear gloves.
The argument regarding people massing at boat ramps is minor compared to what you can see at a Costco store prior to opening. Same argument can be made on any sidewalk or inside any retailer after the customers get in and prior to them lining up to pay.
People have to exercise caution and need to get used to it, it’s not going away. Having said that though we need to ensure the rules are valid, make sense and have a means of enforcement.
 
uclueletcharters said:
Summer lock down would be horrible, going stir crazy at it is at it's only been a tad over a month. What's happening in Ecuador?
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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/23/world/americas/ecuador-deaths-coronavirus.html

QUITO, Ecuador — With bodies abandoned on sidewalks, slumped in wheelchairs, packed into cardboard coffins and stacked by the hundreds in morgues, it is clear that Ecuador has been devastated by the coronavirus.

But the epidemic is even worse than many people in the country realize.

The death toll in Ecuador during the outbreak was 15 times higher than the official number of Covid-19 deaths reported by the government, according to an analysis of mortality data by The New York Times.
 
SpringVelocity said:
What is with guys today? Everyone moans on here you want to be like Sweden with looser restrictions, but then fishing is open with some rules attached that somehow a big deal. It's not closed like our Washington friends!! Your given info to remain social distancing to keep everyone fishing. You guys have all have been told it is same household, and to avoid essential travel. But still you want to break it, and try and find some way you can do it.

If you get fined no one feels for you. Lots of guiding businesses are struggling financially right now because they can't operate businesses to social distancing. How are you being fair to them?

Sorry to go on but I want fishing to stay open. Last thing we need is for more people to do what you are suggesting than it is closed for everyone.
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Why bring up guiding businesses in response to my post? Nowhere did it say I would like to take someone out and receive compensation for it. That is just a whole different story. All i asked is for some facts regarding what you've stated earlier, I'm not trying to start a fight or anything.
 
ziggy said:
I guess I disagree that you can’t safely fish on a suitable sized boat. Yes, you may have to modify your behaviour, much like you have to do in a retail outlet, but a blanket order is very questionable. You may not be able to share fishing gear like you used to, but that’s an easy problem to overcome. Either don’t share, fish your own gear, or wear gloves.
The argument regarding people massing at boat ramps is minor compared to what you can see at a Costco store prior to opening. Same argument can be made on any sidewalk or inside any retailer after the customers get in and prior to them lining up to pay.
People have to exercise caution and need to get used to it, it’s not going away. Having said that though we need to ensure the rules are valid, make sense and have a means of enforcement.
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Yes the Costco lines are nuts agreed but it's for groceries and it appears it's one person per shopping cart in the line share of media coverage. It's okay to disagree that's what makes this forum so great, we all have our own opinions and fishermen with strong ones mine included :)
 
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