Unreel
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The beach in Renfrew will be a absolute parking lot.
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brutus
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just rearead the thing again,and yes its a go,from pachena up island to cape scott,up to one nautical mile out,21 and 20 closed till the 15 july,so no retention in port Renfrew till the 15 july,some guides are going to suffer from this,but uky and toffino and up are going to survive I think.personally I am not a threat to the survival of the chinook,we took home maybe 10 chinook that where caught in my boat.
brutus
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nope,no go in PR till the 15 july if I read it right,i read the thing over and over I think I am right
Unreel
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If you have Facebook look up Gibbs delta tackle, rob sat down with Wilkinson today and he has a post about it. Sounds like right now it is closed for retention but Wilkinson said he would look into a variance.
brutus
Well-Known Member
Nice, looks like somebody as a bit of pull,it would help the guides a bit, not as easy as the bank to fill the boat but better than a full on closure
Unreel
Well-Known Member
Ya but the bank is the bread and butter really for the Charters earlier in the season. Beach doesn’t get much fish early season does it? Haven’t been there for a few years but that’s what I remember.
brutus
Well-Known Member
Ya you got that right, not much for numbers on the beach till july, few here and there but nothing like the feeder size fish the guides rely on to fill the boat for there client,they can still keep there client happy, few haly catch and release a few nooky then beach for the hope of getting a few to go home with, some of these guides have a way to get fish when we all fail lol
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The Jackel
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You still running that oil burning ultimate man made fogging 2 stroke engine, carry on...
T
The Jackel
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Inside waters are Barclay Sound, Nitinat lake etc, look at the maps closly and they will show up.
T
The Jackel
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April 18, 2019
THE FRASER RIVER CHINOOK DECISION IN 2019 - A MEETING WITH MINISTER WILKINSON TO DISCUSS
The SFI had a frank and direct discussion with Minister Wilkinson and senior DFO officials today. It should be noted that the fishery remains open until a Fishery Notice is posted. And, when the Fishery Notice is released it is important to note that salmon fishing is not closed but that there is a period of time where Chinook is non-retention only in southern BC waters.
To be brief and to catch you before the beginning of a long weekend, the following summarizes the discussion points during a meeting with Minister Wilkinson and Senior DFO officials today; SFI representatives voiced their dismay and alarm over the Minister's decision and the lack of balance it achieves between socioeconomic impacts and conservation benefits.
The Minister was firm in his belief that the restrictions in place are appropriate from a conservation and First Nations FSC priority access perspective, but was open to ideas to reduce impact to the public fishery that would not increase the overall exploitation rate on stocks of concern.
Areas of discussion included;
Ensuring that there is an open corridor along the WCVI to allow access for those communities not connected to an open area and fishing areas that are known to have zero or close to zero impact on the stocks of concern.
Same for mainland inlets like Knight, Kingcome, Toba and Bute The urgent need for immediate progress and action on mass marking and selective marked fisheries.
The urgent need to address the barriers to chinook production on the Fraser such as the impact of predators.
The need to increase hatchery production on the Fraser where appropriate.
SOUTHERN RESIDENT KILLER WHALE (SRKW) COMMUNITY SESSIONS NEXT WEEK
As described in the linked attachment, DFO is conducting three community meetings next week to discuss measures considered for SRKW. We encourage you to attend the session closest to you.
All events: Doors open at 5:00 pm and run from 6:00 pm to 9:00 pm.
April 23 Victoria: Westin Bear Mountain Golf Resort and Spa April 24 Sooke: Prestige Oceanfront Resort April 24 Richmond: Executive Hotel Vancouver Airport For more information on SRKW please visit the SFI website or SRKW.org
Visit and share this short SRKW PSA too
Wishing you and your families an enjoyable Easter long weekend.
Until next time, tight lines,
The SFI Team
THE FRASER RIVER CHINOOK DECISION IN 2019 - A MEETING WITH MINISTER WILKINSON TO DISCUSS
The SFI had a frank and direct discussion with Minister Wilkinson and senior DFO officials today. It should be noted that the fishery remains open until a Fishery Notice is posted. And, when the Fishery Notice is released it is important to note that salmon fishing is not closed but that there is a period of time where Chinook is non-retention only in southern BC waters.
To be brief and to catch you before the beginning of a long weekend, the following summarizes the discussion points during a meeting with Minister Wilkinson and Senior DFO officials today; SFI representatives voiced their dismay and alarm over the Minister's decision and the lack of balance it achieves between socioeconomic impacts and conservation benefits.
The Minister was firm in his belief that the restrictions in place are appropriate from a conservation and First Nations FSC priority access perspective, but was open to ideas to reduce impact to the public fishery that would not increase the overall exploitation rate on stocks of concern.
Areas of discussion included;
Ensuring that there is an open corridor along the WCVI to allow access for those communities not connected to an open area and fishing areas that are known to have zero or close to zero impact on the stocks of concern.
Same for mainland inlets like Knight, Kingcome, Toba and Bute The urgent need for immediate progress and action on mass marking and selective marked fisheries.
The urgent need to address the barriers to chinook production on the Fraser such as the impact of predators.
The need to increase hatchery production on the Fraser where appropriate.
SOUTHERN RESIDENT KILLER WHALE (SRKW) COMMUNITY SESSIONS NEXT WEEK
As described in the linked attachment, DFO is conducting three community meetings next week to discuss measures considered for SRKW. We encourage you to attend the session closest to you.
All events: Doors open at 5:00 pm and run from 6:00 pm to 9:00 pm.
April 23 Victoria: Westin Bear Mountain Golf Resort and Spa April 24 Sooke: Prestige Oceanfront Resort April 24 Richmond: Executive Hotel Vancouver Airport For more information on SRKW please visit the SFI website or SRKW.org
Visit and share this short SRKW PSA too
Wishing you and your families an enjoyable Easter long weekend.
Until next time, tight lines,
The SFI Team
T
The Jackel
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Subject: Re: Bit better map of the Chinook Restrictions
Thanks for sharing. There was a meeting this am with SFI,PSF,SFAB with fisheries minister.
Apparently they moved the surf line off the beach to 1 mile offshore. What’s hasn’t been confirmed if the boundary is Pachina point or Bonilla.
I will not believe anything until the DFO clowns issue an official notice. Talk we will see it today......
DFO butt hats have done such a poor job explaining boundaries.
It’s been ugly dealing with my dealers.....
Thanks for sharing. There was a meeting this am with SFI,PSF,SFAB with fisheries minister.
Apparently they moved the surf line off the beach to 1 mile offshore. What’s hasn’t been confirmed if the boundary is Pachina point or Bonilla.
I will not believe anything until the DFO clowns issue an official notice. Talk we will see it today......
DFO butt hats have done such a poor job explaining boundaries.
It’s been ugly dealing with my dealers.....
T
The Jackel
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Category(s):
ABORIGINAL - General Information,
ABORIGINAL - Salmon: Economic Opportunities,
COMMERCIAL - General Information,
COMMERCIAL - Salmon: Troll,
RECREATIONAL - General Information,
RECREATIONAL - Salmon
Fishery Notice - Fisheries and Oceans Canada
Subject: FN0377-COMMERCIAL, RECREATIONAL and ABORIGINAL - Salmon - Chinook - 2019 Fraser River Chinook Conservation Measures and Coast-wide Recreational Annual Aggregates
This notice provides the Fraser Chinook fisheries management measures for the
2019 fishing season.
Chinook Conservation Measures:
To address conservation concerns for Fraser River Chinook salmon, DFO is
implementing new fishery reductions to support conservation and promote
recovery of at risk Chinook.
New management measures for Fraser River Chinook are outlined below.
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Northern Commercial Fisheries
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Area F Troll – Chinook non-retention will be in effect until August 20, 2019.
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Southern BC Commercial Fisheries
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Area G Troll: Delayed start for AABM Chinook fishery until August 1, 2019.
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Southern BC Recreational Fisheries:
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WCVI Subareas 20-1, 20-2, Area 121, and Areas 123 to 127 seaward of a 1 nm
Boundary Line. The Boundary Line is defined below:
00:01 hours April 19 to 23:59 hours July 14, 2019: Chinook non-retention;
00:01 hours July 15 to 23:59 hours December 31, 2019: 2 Chinook per day
The Boundary Line is approximately 1nm seaward of the surfline and is defined
as follows:
A line that begins at Pacheena Point lighthouse at 48 degrees 43.327’ N 125
degrees 05.855’ W
then to 48 degrees 42.456’ N 125 degrees 06.583’ W seaward of Pachena Point,
then to 48 degrees 46.420’ N 125 degrees 13.997’ W seaward of Cape Beale,
then to 48 degrees 54.572’ N 125 degrees 33.622’ W seaward of Amphitrite Point,
then to 49 degrees 05.100’ N 125 degrees 54.646’ W seaward of Cox Point,
then to 49 degrees 10.280’ N 126 degrees 04.790’ W seaward of Blunden Island,
then to 49 degrees 16.472’ N 126 degrees 15.140’ W seaward of Rafael Point,
then to 49 degrees 20.008’ N 126 degrees 17.188’ W seaward of Sydney Inlet,
then to 49 degrees 23.807’ N 126 degrees 24.483’ W seaward of Hesquiat Point,
then to 49 degrees 21.620’ N 126 degrees 28.478’ W seaward of Matlahaw Point,
then to 49 degrees 22.113’ N 126 degrees 33.508’ W seaward of Estevan Point,
then to 49 degrees 23.869’ N 126 degrees 35.333’ W seaward of Homais Cove,
then to 49 degrees 27.766’ N 126 degrees 35.971’ W seaward of Split Cape,
then to 49 degrees 31.494’ N 126 degrees 35.669’ W seaward of Escalante Point,
then to 49 degrees 34.042’ N 126 degrees 41.611’ W seaward of Maquinna Point,
then to 49 degrees 36.254’ N 126 degrees 50.538’ W seaward of Bajo Point,
then to 49 degrees 39.892’ N 126 degrees 55.125’ W seaward of Skuna Bay,
then to 49 degrees 44.400’ N 127 degrees 00.289’ W seaward of Ferrer Point,
then to 49 degrees 50.767’ N 127 degrees 10.151’ W seaward of Tatchu Point,
then to 49 degrees 59.142’ N 127 degrees 28.125’ W seaward of Lookout Island,
then to 50 degrees 06.948’ N 127 degrees 41.617’ W seaward of Jackobson Point,
then to 50 degrees 03.599’ N 127 degrees 47.722’ W seaward of Clerke Point,
then to 50 degrees 05.868’ N 127 degrees 57.906’ W seaward of Solander Island,
then to 50 degrees 19.284’ N 128 degrees 00.130’ W seaward of Lawn Point,
then to 50 degrees 31.501’ N 128 degrees 14.238’ W seaward of Topknot Point,
then to 50 degrees 35.683’ N 128 degrees 19.249’ W seaward of Cape Palmerston,
then to 50 degrees 39.280’ N 128 degrees 23.459’ W seaward of Winifred Island,
then to 50 degrees 41.116’ N 128 degrees 24.166’ W seaward of Cape Russell,
then to 50 degrees 44.137’ N 128 degrees 26.559’ W seaward of Strange Rock,
then to 50 degrees 47.926’ N 128 degrees 27.363’ W seaward of Cape Scott,
then to Frederiksen Point.
Chinook daily limits remain at 2 per day shoreward of this Boundary Line.
Johnstone Strait (Area 12):
00:01 hours April 19 to 23:59 hours July 14, 2019: Chinook non-retention;
00:01 hours July 15 to 23:59 hours August 29, 2019: 1 Chinook per day;
00:01 hours August 30 to 23:59 hours December 31: 2 Chinook per day.
Strait of Georgia – North - Areas 13 to 17, 28, portions of Area 29 (29-1 and
29-2):
00:01 hours April 19 to 23:59 hours July 14, 2019: Chinook non-retention;
00:01 hours July 15 to 23:59 hours August 29, 2019: 1 Chinook/day;
00:01 hours August 30 to December 31, 2019 2 Chinook/day.
Strait of Georgia – South and Juan de Fuca - Areas 18, Subareas 19-3 to 19-12,
Subareas 20-3 to 20-7 and Subareas 29-3 to 29-5:
00:01 hours April 19 to 23:59 hours July 31, 2019: Chinook non-retention;
00:01 hours August 1 to 23:59 hours August 29, 2019: 1 Chinook per day;
00:01 hours August 30 to 23:59 hours December 31, 2019: 2 Chinook per day.
Subareas 29-6, 29-7, 29-9, 29-10 (Fraser mouth), Fraser River Tidal Areas 29-11
to 29-17, Fraser River Non Tidal (Region 2):
Subarea 29-6 is currently closed to fishing for salmon to July 31; a future
notice will extend this to August 23.
Subareas 29-7, 29-9, 29-10 and the tidal waters of the Fraser River (Subareas
29-11 to 29-17) are currently closed to fishing for salmon to August 23.
The non-tidal waters of the Fraser River in Region 2 are currently closed to
fishing for salmon until July 31. A future notice will extend this to Aug. 23
Freshwater Regions 3,5,7 and 8:
Closed to fishing for salmon (Fishing opportunities for specific salmon stocks
may be considered at a later date)
VO: 2019-RFQ-223
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Coast-wide Recreational Fisheries:
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For the recreational fishery, the annual aggregate limit for chinook salmon is
ten (10) in all tidal and fresh waters coast-wide.
VO: 2019-RFQ-224
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Southern BC Food, Social and Ceremonial Fisheries:
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Lower Fraser and BC Interior: Chinook non-retention to July 14th; very limited
priority access for ceremonial purposes will be considered prior to July 14th.
In Southern BC marine waters beginning 00:01 hours April 19 until 23:59 hours
July 14, 2019 Chinook non-retention will be in effect in the following Areas
and Subareas:
Areas 12 to 21, 121 Subareas 29-1 to 29-7,29-9, 29-10 and those portions of
Areas 123 to 127 1 nautical mile seaward of the surfline.
For clarity, Chinook retention is permitted in Areas 11, 23 to 27, 111 and
those portions of Areas 123 to 127 shoreward of a Boundary Line 1 nautical mile
seaward of the surfline.
VO: 2019-222
Further information on specific management actions will be communicated by
separate Fishery Notices. You can view or subscribe to fisheries notices
at: http://notices.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fns-sap/index-eng.cfm
FOR MORE INFORMATION
Contact your local DFO office
http://www.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/contact/regions/pacific-pacifique-eng.html
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ABORIGINAL - General Information,
ABORIGINAL - Salmon: Economic Opportunities,
COMMERCIAL - General Information,
COMMERCIAL - Salmon: Troll,
RECREATIONAL - General Information,
RECREATIONAL - Salmon
Fishery Notice - Fisheries and Oceans Canada
Subject: FN0377-COMMERCIAL, RECREATIONAL and ABORIGINAL - Salmon - Chinook - 2019 Fraser River Chinook Conservation Measures and Coast-wide Recreational Annual Aggregates
This notice provides the Fraser Chinook fisheries management measures for the
2019 fishing season.
Chinook Conservation Measures:
To address conservation concerns for Fraser River Chinook salmon, DFO is
implementing new fishery reductions to support conservation and promote
recovery of at risk Chinook.
New management measures for Fraser River Chinook are outlined below.
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Northern Commercial Fisheries
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Area F Troll – Chinook non-retention will be in effect until August 20, 2019.
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Southern BC Commercial Fisheries
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Area G Troll: Delayed start for AABM Chinook fishery until August 1, 2019.
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Southern BC Recreational Fisheries:
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WCVI Subareas 20-1, 20-2, Area 121, and Areas 123 to 127 seaward of a 1 nm
Boundary Line. The Boundary Line is defined below:
00:01 hours April 19 to 23:59 hours July 14, 2019: Chinook non-retention;
00:01 hours July 15 to 23:59 hours December 31, 2019: 2 Chinook per day
The Boundary Line is approximately 1nm seaward of the surfline and is defined
as follows:
A line that begins at Pacheena Point lighthouse at 48 degrees 43.327’ N 125
degrees 05.855’ W
then to 48 degrees 42.456’ N 125 degrees 06.583’ W seaward of Pachena Point,
then to 48 degrees 46.420’ N 125 degrees 13.997’ W seaward of Cape Beale,
then to 48 degrees 54.572’ N 125 degrees 33.622’ W seaward of Amphitrite Point,
then to 49 degrees 05.100’ N 125 degrees 54.646’ W seaward of Cox Point,
then to 49 degrees 10.280’ N 126 degrees 04.790’ W seaward of Blunden Island,
then to 49 degrees 16.472’ N 126 degrees 15.140’ W seaward of Rafael Point,
then to 49 degrees 20.008’ N 126 degrees 17.188’ W seaward of Sydney Inlet,
then to 49 degrees 23.807’ N 126 degrees 24.483’ W seaward of Hesquiat Point,
then to 49 degrees 21.620’ N 126 degrees 28.478’ W seaward of Matlahaw Point,
then to 49 degrees 22.113’ N 126 degrees 33.508’ W seaward of Estevan Point,
then to 49 degrees 23.869’ N 126 degrees 35.333’ W seaward of Homais Cove,
then to 49 degrees 27.766’ N 126 degrees 35.971’ W seaward of Split Cape,
then to 49 degrees 31.494’ N 126 degrees 35.669’ W seaward of Escalante Point,
then to 49 degrees 34.042’ N 126 degrees 41.611’ W seaward of Maquinna Point,
then to 49 degrees 36.254’ N 126 degrees 50.538’ W seaward of Bajo Point,
then to 49 degrees 39.892’ N 126 degrees 55.125’ W seaward of Skuna Bay,
then to 49 degrees 44.400’ N 127 degrees 00.289’ W seaward of Ferrer Point,
then to 49 degrees 50.767’ N 127 degrees 10.151’ W seaward of Tatchu Point,
then to 49 degrees 59.142’ N 127 degrees 28.125’ W seaward of Lookout Island,
then to 50 degrees 06.948’ N 127 degrees 41.617’ W seaward of Jackobson Point,
then to 50 degrees 03.599’ N 127 degrees 47.722’ W seaward of Clerke Point,
then to 50 degrees 05.868’ N 127 degrees 57.906’ W seaward of Solander Island,
then to 50 degrees 19.284’ N 128 degrees 00.130’ W seaward of Lawn Point,
then to 50 degrees 31.501’ N 128 degrees 14.238’ W seaward of Topknot Point,
then to 50 degrees 35.683’ N 128 degrees 19.249’ W seaward of Cape Palmerston,
then to 50 degrees 39.280’ N 128 degrees 23.459’ W seaward of Winifred Island,
then to 50 degrees 41.116’ N 128 degrees 24.166’ W seaward of Cape Russell,
then to 50 degrees 44.137’ N 128 degrees 26.559’ W seaward of Strange Rock,
then to 50 degrees 47.926’ N 128 degrees 27.363’ W seaward of Cape Scott,
then to Frederiksen Point.
Chinook daily limits remain at 2 per day shoreward of this Boundary Line.
Johnstone Strait (Area 12):
00:01 hours April 19 to 23:59 hours July 14, 2019: Chinook non-retention;
00:01 hours July 15 to 23:59 hours August 29, 2019: 1 Chinook per day;
00:01 hours August 30 to 23:59 hours December 31: 2 Chinook per day.
Strait of Georgia – North - Areas 13 to 17, 28, portions of Area 29 (29-1 and
29-2):
00:01 hours April 19 to 23:59 hours July 14, 2019: Chinook non-retention;
00:01 hours July 15 to 23:59 hours August 29, 2019: 1 Chinook/day;
00:01 hours August 30 to December 31, 2019 2 Chinook/day.
Strait of Georgia – South and Juan de Fuca - Areas 18, Subareas 19-3 to 19-12,
Subareas 20-3 to 20-7 and Subareas 29-3 to 29-5:
00:01 hours April 19 to 23:59 hours July 31, 2019: Chinook non-retention;
00:01 hours August 1 to 23:59 hours August 29, 2019: 1 Chinook per day;
00:01 hours August 30 to 23:59 hours December 31, 2019: 2 Chinook per day.
Subareas 29-6, 29-7, 29-9, 29-10 (Fraser mouth), Fraser River Tidal Areas 29-11
to 29-17, Fraser River Non Tidal (Region 2):
Subarea 29-6 is currently closed to fishing for salmon to July 31; a future
notice will extend this to August 23.
Subareas 29-7, 29-9, 29-10 and the tidal waters of the Fraser River (Subareas
29-11 to 29-17) are currently closed to fishing for salmon to August 23.
The non-tidal waters of the Fraser River in Region 2 are currently closed to
fishing for salmon until July 31. A future notice will extend this to Aug. 23
Freshwater Regions 3,5,7 and 8:
Closed to fishing for salmon (Fishing opportunities for specific salmon stocks
may be considered at a later date)
VO: 2019-RFQ-223
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Coast-wide Recreational Fisheries:
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For the recreational fishery, the annual aggregate limit for chinook salmon is
ten (10) in all tidal and fresh waters coast-wide.
VO: 2019-RFQ-224
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Southern BC Food, Social and Ceremonial Fisheries:
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Lower Fraser and BC Interior: Chinook non-retention to July 14th; very limited
priority access for ceremonial purposes will be considered prior to July 14th.
In Southern BC marine waters beginning 00:01 hours April 19 until 23:59 hours
July 14, 2019 Chinook non-retention will be in effect in the following Areas
and Subareas:
Areas 12 to 21, 121 Subareas 29-1 to 29-7,29-9, 29-10 and those portions of
Areas 123 to 127 1 nautical mile seaward of the surfline.
For clarity, Chinook retention is permitted in Areas 11, 23 to 27, 111 and
those portions of Areas 123 to 127 shoreward of a Boundary Line 1 nautical mile
seaward of the surfline.
VO: 2019-222
Further information on specific management actions will be communicated by
separate Fishery Notices. You can view or subscribe to fisheries notices
at: http://notices.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fns-sap/index-eng.cfm
FOR MORE INFORMATION
Contact your local DFO office
http://www.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/contact/regions/pacific-pacifique-eng.html
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brutus
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brutus
Well-Known Member
This was the map when they first annonce, is there a better map showing the 1 nm boundary???Inside waters are Barclay Sound, Nitinat lake etc, look at the maps closly and they will show up.
ziggy
Well-Known Member
Is there any discussion taking place about the fin fish closure around Pender Bluffs? Given the extent of the current closures, annual closures, RCA’s etc it appears this area has been written off? It should be noted this is one of the few local areas available for species other than Spring salmon.
brutus
Well-Known Member
Unless they pur out new regs next week, looks like port renfrew is a no go till 15 july, Unreel says there are in talks about opening to 2 day, but untill i see it its no go till july 15
T
The Jackel
Guest
Folks we all need to just take a deep breath, try and relax a tad and wait until everything is posted on the dfo site as official. heres wishful thinking.
Rob H
Active Member
If you read the fishery notice FN 0377 posted above by Jackel it lists WCVI Subarea 20-1, 20-2, area 121, then areas 123 to 127 seaward of a 1 nm boundary line that is described by a long set of coordinates. These areas are closed to Chinook retention until July 14th. All other subareas in area 20 are also closed (to July 31).
...Rob
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