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I'm in the market for a Grady a 30 Marlin...there's sure a lot of listings and the local boats on the West Coast seem to be priced extremely high relative to East Coast Boats..I'm probably going to drive down to the States in the Seattle area that is unlisted to see what's up..but he's asking a princely sum.

Wondering if there are any Grady owners on here who have some specific recommendations for buying used? How are Yammy 250's mechanically? I've heard if the power head blows they're a bit trying to fix....

Anyone?
 
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I'm in the market for a Grady a 30 Marlin...there's sure a lot of listings and the local boats on the West Coast seem to be priced extremely high relative to East Coast Boats..I'm probably going to drive down to the States in the Seattle area that is unlisted to see what's up..but he's asking a princely sum.

Wondering if there are any Grady owners on here who have some specific recommendations for buying used? How are Yammy 250's mechanically? I've heard if the power head blows they're a bit trying to fix....

Anyone?

I would spend some time at the Grady-White owners web - www.greatgrady.com posting questions. Lots of good stuff and you will find the members to be very helpful, friendly and not at all clickish like find on some forums. Lots of the members have experience with the Yamaha 2 & 4-stokes, re-powering, upgrades, repairs, and problems/specific issues with the Marlin.

Regarding Yami 250hp, if you are refering to the 2-stoke OX66 motor it is regarded as one of the best Yamaha has ever produced and perhaps one of the top 25 all-time amonst all brands. Great power to weight ratio, very resposive, smooth idler and always starts on half a turn of the starter. I will likely rebuild before replacing mine with 4-stokes as you would need to power up to twin 175hp's 4-strokes to overcome the slower throttle responce and add'l weight to get same performance as my 250hp. Have heard reports of the original power head going 7000hr before overhaul.

Seriously consider the eastcoast boats before you pay the extra for west coast Marlin. 4 of 4 used Marlin's purchased by friends and aquaints in the past 24months were sourced off of the east coast and Great lakes. Don't let the distance get in the way of your saving 10-15k US.




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Knuckles: Yup, Sangster had a shop on Coal Harbour near the Trader Vics restaurant in the Bayshore Hotel. The hotel is still there (minus Trader Vics). All the old warehouses are long gone and replaced by expensive highrise condos.


red gelcoat. <img src=icon_smile_approve.gif border=0 align=middle>

Remember, it's called "fishing," not "catching."
I waqs fishing Active Pass one day and I look up to see Trader Vics on a barge heading into the Pass.
A few years later i'm pokin around Brentwood Bay and there it is .Apparently,some guy bought it and moved it to a ocean front lot and had plans of running it as a beer and wine store or something and couldn't get permits.I don't know what its doing now.
Also,fishing from smaller,less expensive boats....we were at the dock talking about this yesterday.As a kid I grew up fishing Active Pass from a 12' springbok.with a 6 hp evinrude.I had 1 rod.used to jig herring and mooch with.No sonar.I caught so many fish I had all the americans in there gradys coming over and asking me what I was doing.You were allowed 4 springs per day and gas was 40 cents per gallon.Now I seem to spend more time working on things.My future includes a 17' lifetimer style welded alum.center console.Simple and effective.

a total MILF.Man I Love Fishing
 
Grady notes. Capstan's part's department is out to lunch. Also quality on new Grady's is falling fast. I have been redoing a 1993 Marlin 280. The boat is identical to a 300. I was never able to get one part from Capstan. They would run you around and promise to call back and never would. I bought my parts from West marine or on e-bay. The great thing about Grayd's is that they use top of the line manufacturers for suppliers. At the boat show this year I toured the new 300. These boats have some serious fit and finish issues. Open any hatch or inspection plate and you will find unfinished surfaces, raw glass and lot of construction debris. The bilge on my '93 is finished better than the space behind the gally cupboards on the new ones.
 
We had a lifetimer built a couple years ago, same fit and finish problems, leaking windows, leaking deck, electrical problems,etc. A LOT of seams we're never welded that i think should have been. I think all boat manufacturers are trying to cash in on there name.
 
Thanks for the advice on the Grady's Guys. I'm buying a boat for a a decade not 10 days so I'll have a look around. I've looked at Boats like Boston Whalers and Seaswirl Stripers, and Bayliners in the same length and it seems like it's going to ba Grady for me.

I'm already over there on that website...
 
I have been kicking around upgrading for some time and heard some great advice here regarding buying a Grady down south. I think buying a less than 10 year old Grady from the US east coast in the winter is a good option. I think local dealers are enjoying the good economy right now and for those who go to the states with a pretty good Canadian dollar will save considerable money. Hopefully the dollar stays at least where it is for the next year or so - I am looking for a used Grady 208 or possibly a 226. I find used whalers, particularly the Conquest 23-25ft not much of a savings in the US. However a used Seaswirl or Grady from the east coast is a deal.
 
The Seaswirl in the 30 foot class is no match for the Grady...but a helluva lot cheaper..but a lot of boat for the money..but what it looks like after 10 years is definitely a different matter.

You never hear of Seaswirl being a top name in boats..but either way...comparing the specs...the Seaswirl is definitely similar...
 
i got a 19 ft.searay with a deep v tri hull,351 ford ,electric scottys,deph finder, black box etc.A great rough water boat and a smooth ride,paid 2000.00 and put about that into it.It's only saving grace is that the engine only had 2 hrs. on it.And it cruises at 30 and top speed is about 40.

thanks the runt
 
owned:
12 foot fibreglass runabout - affectionately named "the Planter" because when I was restoring it, my friends said I should restore it and place it in the front yard and put flowers in it <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

12 foot welded aluminum skiff with a 25 h.p. on it - went like stink - named the "Silver Surfer"

presently now:

18' Hewescraft jet boat with a 110 jetted evinrude, Named Finaddict
26' Campion Toba Named Mor-Fin Addict
8' Buck's Bag Pontoon Boat
9' Outcast pontoon boat

Still need a 12' cartopper for the lakes <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>
 
First was my 12' Hourston closed bow with steering, windshield with a finely tuned and recarbed 9.9 Everyone thought I was crazy but I took it out on the chuck off Oak Bay and Victoria caught many fish both saltwater and fresh water on that boat/dingy my baby hourston.

Now I have a old 17.5 Calglass MyEscape with electric downriggers, gps, vhf, cd stereo and more. I have had it under powered for 4 years running only old merc 50's Full out was 28mph cruised @ 24 with two people but have blown up a couple of motors due to pushing them to hard with more then two people in the boat. I also have a merc 7.5 kicker on a drop down bracket runs great and works perfect for pushing the boat even in strong tides. However things change today I am repowering with a Yami 70 two stroke oil injected with power tilt/trim which will help save on fuel costs and I won't have to push the motor so hard. I am not wanting to go faster as I like cruising around 25 I just want to lower the rpm's tired of the screaming motor and the excessive smoke those old mercs pump out. My boat will be modified within the next month include pedistal seating and a few other mods tba. MyEscape is an oldie but a goodie, best of all fishes great without many thousands invested. My boat is 17.5 feet long and with the scotty downriggers fully out I'm 16'wide makes for great turning ability. LOL

Cheers ME
 
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I'm not as smart as you, Red. I wasn't able to figure out that photobucket. Hope this will do.

She's almost ready for the season. Need to re-bearing the trailer, change one bilge pump and get some new clear stuff (windows), then she should be DONE.

The coamer's and seats in the cockpit are starting to look a little shabby but will go another season. Same for the canvas.

If ya see me out there sitin' on your favorite fish'n hole, troll on by and introduce yourself! :)

Some like it rough...
Others just puke!

Mr. Dean
 
Hi Salt fever just curious,why the Grady. I do know they are great boats, so expensive compared to some of the locally built boats.They charge an extra 20 grand just for the logo.I will keep my eye open for ya though. How far will you travel.I'm going to san diego on fri.You never know what you find down there.

thanks the runt
 
I agree that up here yes they do charge that extra 20 or 30k for the logo, but the finish and quality is not matchable, and if you bring up a 2 or 3 year old boat from the south there much cheaper than up here, and in comparison to the price you pay down there they are not over priced. Yes there are very nice obats up here like osprey and sea west and sea sport (by the way my friend just recieved his brand new sea west 27' last thursday and the finsihing is disgusting. THe wood trim in the cabin isnt even square on one corner, not just a bit but its out like an inch and a half, and the fiberglass item holders attached to the sides out on the deck look like sum1 took a hack saw at the mto but them out hey arnt staraight or smooth) but they arnt compareable when it coems to certain things

To fish or not to fish,
What a stupid question!
Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day, teach a man to fish, and he will sit on a boat drinking beer for a life time :D
TGIF =Thank God It Floats
 
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Hi Salt fever just curious,why the Grady. I do know they are great boats, so expensive compared to some of the locally built boats.They charge an extra 20 grand just for the logo.I will keep my eye open for ya though. How far will you travel.I'm going to san diego on fri.You never know what you find down there.

thanks the runt

Hi Runt,

No doubt the Grady name carries a premium price and you need to have your head examined if you choose to purchase new.

I spent 6-months actively searching for the right deal.

The below market price low time boat with limited saltwater use etc... I was searching Whaler, Parker, Grady, Pursuit, and couple other lessor know Aluminum hulls. The Grady just happened to meet my criteria at a low price. Mine was about 12k below market price including the cost of transport New England to Oregon. It was that low price the got me into a Grady. Not the snobbery and that other crap and believe me you get alot of guys taking shots at you at you for owning a Grady.

After having now owed one for 8-months and comparing to other hulls I have fished on I can honestly state she is one solid built boat with a very straight tracking, soft, dry ride and quality hardware and cosmetic finish - no cheap china stainless or sun cooked gel-coat. There are no doubt better buys but, when purchased right, the Grady is hard to beat.

Other item to consider:
Most who purchase Gradys new have a wallet full of money and almost always spec them out with premium electronics and upgrades - mine came w/ all Raymarine electronics including 24mn Radar, sounder, and 10" color and 10" mono gps/plotters and dual VHF radios.

Complaints:
Wavy rub rail, replacement parts pricing (fortunately very little has been required) limited access to through hulls and mechanical pit, narrow companion way between helm and passenger seat, windsheild and foward hatch window gaskets leak water in heavy rain, hydraulic steering is too stiff, not enough tackle storage in fishing cockpit, so-so live well, limited fresh water storage and smallish fishing cockpit for 25ft hull compared to a Parker or other "fishing" boats.

Positives:
She can land hard off the back side of a big wave and not shuttler one bit, not a creak or groan from any part of the deck under my 325lb frame, stoutness and quality finish of hardward, hinges, latches, doors, cleats, rod holders etc... Solid fiberglass core is very quite, huge fuel capacity at 155-gallons, 450mile range, three large insulated fish boxes (must for tuna fishing), twice the gel-coat thickness of most other comparable brands (according to my fiberglass guy doing some repairs from a recent ill-fated take out during a 30mph quartering tail wind), excellent factory support for a 9-year old hull, high resale when I trade up, and near new looking 9-year old fiberglass boat - something about their gel-coat really holds up overtime.

Nasty Oregon Waters:
I needed a positive floatation hull, with good fuel capacity and range that could handle fast approaching nasty weather when I am 40-50-60miles off the Oregon coast chasing tuna or halibut. It's not un-common for one to run out two hours and take 5-6hrs to slog back in tightly spaced 4-6ft wind chop here in Oregon. All but one of our coastal ports has river bar to cross to before reaching habor waters and the one that does not, closes often under rough conditios due to a very narrow, blind entrance. Many times after missing the tide for idea river-bar conditions you are forced to drive in some pretty nasty standing waves for a mile or so. Those river-bars kill or sink 2-3 boats every summer (I can think of three guys from my home fishing board/forum who died or lost someone close last August crossing an Oregon river bar at the end of the fishing day). Amoung the 200-300 salt fishermen from my area, the list of boats owned by those who fish regularly is a who's-who of quality boats. Any thing less would come un-done in short order in our home waters. Grady has a demostrated history of long service in Oregon conditions so it just felt like the right buy for me.





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sorry for not getting back to you r.s.craven about e-tec , just back from disneyland with the family . the motor was awsome last season put about 180 hours on it , not even burp or fart , great on fuel , and man my boat fly`s. i looked at it and read up on it for 2 years before i bought 1. i got it from paul at p y marine in port alberni, great guy good service

tight lines
 
Re: some of Salt 5's issues with Grady. I had the same issue with mine having stiff steering. In fact the cylinder seals were leaking and the seals at the helm were also leaking. When I ripped it apart we had to beat on the pins with a sledge hammer after heating them. The cause was poor maintenance. Rather than grease the whole system was full of salt. I can turn the boat now with one finger and no leaks.
 
Hi salt fever have you checked out the 26 ft. wellcraft?nice boats probably not much cheaper than a grady lol.i know what you mean by those nasty bars in oregon.Try drinking in those V.I.bars just as dangerous.lol.

thanks the runt
 
Started off with a 12' Lund and 9.9 evenrude. Great motor and boat.
Now have a 16' silver streak, extended transom, with 50 hp honda. Color chartplotter and depth finder by lowrance, scotty electrics, black box and vhf. A fishin' machine.
 
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Started off with a 12' Lund and 9.9 evenrude. Great motor and boat.
Now have a 16' silver streak, extended transom, with 50 hp honda. Color chartplotter and depth finder by lowrance, scotty electrics, black box and vhf. A fishin' machine.
How far out can you go in that setup?Is it big enough for serious ocean?

a total MILF.Man I Love Fishing
 
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