Switching to an Anchor Ring from Anchor Lift

Discussion in 'Saltwater Fishing Forum' started by fshnfnatic, Apr 4, 2019.

  1. fshnfnatic

    fshnfnatic Well-Known Member

    Thanks for that tip,Pro.I had heard that the regular carabiners have a way of opening sometimes and what you just said confirms it.I'll be switching all my snaps to locking ones now for sure.
     
  2. fshnfnatic

    fshnfnatic Well-Known Member

    That looks interesting halimark.So you've never had one of those stainless rods damage or puncture the ball when running through?
     
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  3. halimark

    halimark Well-Known Member

    Stops at shackle, chain does not run thru on mine. Replace large chain/rode shackle to smaller and it would run thru and stop at anchor, I just find it a pain to pull all chain back thru to reset. I just poke the rods back thru ball shackle and its ready to redeploy.

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  4. fshnfnatic

    fshnfnatic Well-Known Member

    So rather than pulling from the mid ship cleat,where do you pull from?Not the stern I would think?
     
  5. Saxe Point

    Saxe Point Well-Known Member

    Doesn't the advantage of the ring system over yours come from retrievability? With the 2 rings system, if you have to cut the boat free in an emergency or just to avoid one, the Scotsman stays attached to the anchor and you can retrieve it later once the currents have eased off. Unless I am missing something, if you have to cut yours, the Scotsman floats away and your anchor rode heads for the bottom.
     
  6. halimark

    halimark Well-Known Member

    I pull from bow, rope goes on side gunnel to stern, bow line is attached on center cleat (within easy reach) but goes forward thru bow eyelet, if anchor hard to bottom or anything happens, log ahead, kelp, another boat, or any reason to come of power, the pull immediately turns and pulls from bow. I never want to be stern or midship to current. I always have my 2 very sharp knives handy also.

    HM
     
  7. halimark

    halimark Well-Known Member

    You are missing something. I let go off anchor regularly, chase a big one, do a drift, check something out (whales) or get after a bait ball. My boat is still tied to my anchor system as other are, rope comes to boat goes thru the bow anchor guide, then on deck to a soft eye on midship cleat. I have a mid point white float, when I let go, just lift the soft eye of cleat and drop in water. Pull from boat slips back of anchor. To come back drive up pick up rope, place in bow anchor guide and place soft eye back on cleat. I do not loose 30 ft chain, 600 ft Sampson braid rode and 100 ft bow to ball Sampson line at any time. Must say stowing all my gear is easier than when we fish a buddy's boat with rings, clips and extra pieces of rope on ball. There are many ways to anchor, I just like mine seams simpler.

    HM
     
  8. Saxe Point

    Saxe Point Well-Known Member

    You hadn't mentioned the white float before. That's what saves your system if you let it go or cut it free. Other than the short line from the A5 to the ring, your system is not very different from the ring system. The only other (minor) difference is you don't use a bow to stern line to let the rode slide.
     
  9. halimark

    halimark Well-Known Member

    My A5 holds up anchor, shackle on end of rode hits shackle on A5 ball and will not pass thru. Both anchor rode and rope to boat connect to that shackle. My white fender just floats the boat to anchor rope in front of boat and gives a spot to gaff when re hooking on anchor. Yes anchoring systems are very alike, was using mine before any store sold them, I think cheaper, easier to deploy and pull. Most important point is to stay alert when anchoring and use a safe system. Years ago I seen boats tied stern first to the Race green can. Not allowed to tie there anymore. Now every one has an anchor, been along time since anyone asked to tie to my stern.

    HM
     
  10. Nugget

    Nugget Member

    I have always used a Scotty anchor puller with no issues. I used to use a ring but found the odd time my chain would have a small knot and not pass through the ring...thus having the anchor fall back down.
     
  11. casper5280

    casper5280 Well-Known Member

    Oh the good old days. I can remember one time I saw 4 boats all tied to the can all in one long row. I always thought how crazy is that.
     
  12. casper5280

    casper5280 Well-Known Member

    Knots in the chain/rope are usually caused by paying out your anchor to fast. the chain falls faster then the anchor. But yes it will be hard to pass though the ring.
     
  13. halimark

    halimark Well-Known Member

    Just 4 boats? Remember some days of over a dozen, remember being out at 4 am to get first spot. 168 ft deep there, seamed to be more hali right behind can. Also remember having 6-8 boats tied to stern on my 16 ft tinny, then seeing the transom being stretched/ripped back. Holly shit let every one drift NOW. Always tied others to a line I had down side of boat after that repair. Many times some ones rope snapped and created a panic. Ooh the good old days. First boat on can, first ever hali, 63 lbs, skinny 18 yr old kid from Ont with biggest dam fish I had ever seen. Awesome memories in BC. Love it.

    HM
     
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  14. big rock

    big rock Active Member

    Does anyone rig their anchor this way. This set up seems to be easy and safe.
    I would probably go with a ring instead of the break mechanism

     
  15. fshnfnatic

    fshnfnatic Well-Known Member

    This is basically how it's done,and as you said,big rock, minus the brake mechanism using the ring instead.This allows for you to add extensions if you want to fish deeper waters and still get your 2 to 1 scope on your rode.
     
  16. big rock

    big rock Active Member


    Awesome thx.
     
  17. fishbadger

    fishbadger Active Member

    Always interesting to hear how folks do it.

    I have yet to find a reason not to use my Scotty puller (the one-way pulley kind). Coupled with 600 feet of line that I keep in a river bag, slide it on the side bridle with the emergency detach clip, I have yet to have any problems or reason to change (knock on wood). Anchor in 100 fow, just pay out 200 feet, chuck the ball over and stash the rest of the rode in the bag. 300 fow pay out the full rode. Need to detach, pull the clip, chuck the bag in the drink and you're off. Only one piece of rode, no rings, pretty simple and easy to store. I'm not an expert by any means, just works for me. YMMV,

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  18. Saxe Point

    Saxe Point Well-Known Member

    Both ring and anchor puller systems are very good and each has slight advantages over the other. For me, the ring system means I’m not lifting the anchor along with the 40 feet of chain after pulling in all the line. The anchor is suspended under the ball and it gets lifted after my chain has been pulled into the boat. I like that.
     
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  19. big rock

    big rock Active Member


    I'm also no expert LOL

    Just curious what stops the extra rode from pulling out of the bag if you only need 200 feet line(as per your example)
     
  20. fishbadger

    fishbadger Active Member

    Good question. . .wish I had a picture. So I pay out the 200 ft from the bag, tie a quick loop knot in the rode, pop on a carabiner into the loop, which then clips onto a 5" st/st ring (the ring slides on the side bridle). I let the ring wander up the bridle to the bow and let the anchor set, then leave the other 400 ft of line in the bag (it has an integrated cleat, and you cleat hitch it). So when something happens (good or bad!), pop the emergency clip, chuck the bag overboard, side bridle runs out the side and off the bow, 5" ring, clip and bag are all attached to the ball. Float away to deal with good or bad. Lately I've added a small scotchman to the bag, just to make retrieval even easier, but that's a luxury. Hopefully that makes sense. For me the bag is key:
    http://www.chinookoutdoorgear.com/products/AnchorRopeBag.php

    But some of these other guys have been doing it a lot longer than me, so they're probably onto something too.

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