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Derby

Crew Member
SFI Update
September 2012




September 10, 2012




So the halibut closure has gone into effect and the summer fishing season is winding down and we would be remiss if we didn't offer some appreciation to DFO for keeping the fishery open (subject to a slot limit) until after Labour Day.



But despite this, we remain frustrated beyond words that the department is incapable of recognizing that the current halibut allocation model is the very root of the problem facing the fishery, and all the fixes, fiddles and work-arounds in the world won't change that. Simply put, we will face this same problem every year until such time that DFO agrees to adopt a new, fixed-number allocation model.



But please don't interpret our frustration as resignation. To the contrary. Your SFI directors and the many volunteers who participate in the various fisheries planning processes that help shape our annual fishing season will soon be getting back into the fray and working to ensure that next year's fishing season provides as many opportunities as possible.



And we want to talk to you about some of those plans. To that end, we are planning a few SFI Town Hall Meetings, November 13 in Victoria and November 15 in Port Hardy at this time and more dates and locations to be announced, where we hope that you will come out and provide us with more feedback on the fisheries issues that matter to you and help us become better advocates for the sport fishing industry. The dates are still in flux but we expect to hold meetings in Victoria and Port Hardy in mid-November, with other events on the mid-island, North Coast and Lower Mainland to follow.



Finally, we would be remiss if we did not remind you that the SFI`s annual Industry Policy Conference and Big Splash fundraiser will be held at the River Rock Resort and Casino on December 6th. We hope to see you there.



Until next time.



Tight Lines



Robert Alcock








For more information contact:



Sport Fishing Institute of BC

t: 604.946.0734

w:www.sportfishing.bc.ca

e: info@sportfishing.bc.ca



The SFI Team,
 
Just remember the slogan ; "Illegitimus Non-carborundum" - Don't let the bastards grind you down ! :)
 
"So the halibut closure has gone into effect and the summer fishing season is winding down and we would be remiss if we didn't offer some appreciation to DFO for keeping the fishery open (subject to a slot limit) until after Labour Day."


Remiss? Appreciation? WTF?

"Jolly-good boys, let's just keep bending over for the good lads at DFO!"

No more!
 
"So the halibut closure has gone into effect and the summer fishing season is winding down and we would be remiss if we didn't offer some appreciation to DFO for keeping the fishery open (subject to a slot limit) until after Labour Day."


Remiss? Appreciation? WTF?

"Jolly-good boys, let's just keep bending over for the good lads at DFO!"

No more!

x2

I will be making at least one of these meetings and i will make it very clear that i am INSULTED that they would offer the DFO some thanks for keeping us open.

I will guarentee you the DFO will say we went over our allocation to keep us open that long and that will be subtracted from next year.

F the DFO, and anyone that thinks we should be "thankful"
Ive had enough of this "well its better then nothing" attitude

Lorne
 
Hang in there Lorne. We've just installed the engine in the 'New Machine' and she's ready to roll out onto the track.

News will be forthcoming.
 
I am confused we have SFAB and now SFI working on the same issue.....Do they both work together or separate? I usually attend SFAB...

The SFI is industry based. Lodges, guides, tackle shops....ect

Rob Alcock President Gibbs-Delta Tackle
John McCulloch Vice President Langara Fishing Adventures
Gerry Kristianson Vice President Fisheries Committee

Brent McCallum Past-President Redl Sports Distributors
Syd Pallister Past-President Gibbs-Delta Tackle
Rick Bourne Langara Fishing Adventures
Michele Dusterhoft Berry's Bait and Tackle
Deryk Krefting Active Guiding & Tackle Ltd.
Mike Mitchell Outdoor Group Media
Steven Mo TD Canada Trust
Jay Mohl Clayoquot Ventures Guide Service Ltd.
Ward Morran Graywood Sporting Group
Shawn Nagurny Shearwater Marine Group
Martin Paish Oak Bay Marine Group
Terry Schultz West Coast Resorts
Lance Weber St. Jean's Cannery and Smokehouse
Darren Wright Island Outfitters
Wayne Yamauchi


SFAB was suppose to be more independent angler based but has been more or less taken over by the lodge and charter sector. As you can see Mr. Kristianson is high up on both lists and has been the lead negotiator for the last few years for the........ not really sure who's views he represents.

Committee Region Chairs
Main Board Coast Wide Gerry Kristiansen
Groundfish/Shellfish Working Group Coast Wide Chuck Ashcroft
North Coast North Urs Thomas
Bella Coola North Ken Corbould
Central Coast North Mike Rough
Kitimat North Tracey Hittel
Prince Rupert North Kevin Wiley
QCI North Urs Thomas
Terrace North Chris Culp
Upper Skeena North Michael Young
South Coast South Hugh Kingwell
Campbell River South Rupert Gale
Comox South Gerry Scott
Cowichan/Port Renfrew South Bob Gallaugher
Lower Fraser Valley South Ed George
Mid Fraser/Thompson/Okanagan South Sand MacDonald
Nanaimo South Clyde Wicks
Nootka South Cathy Daynes
Port Alberni South Bob Cole
Port Hardy South Graeme Bull
Sechelt South Hugh Kingwell
Squamish to Lillooet South John Wright
Tofino/Ucluelet South Jay Mohl
Upper Fraser River South Mike Fowler
Upper Fraser Valley South Frank Kwak
Victoria South Chris Bos
 
The SFI is industry based. Lodges, guides, tackle shops....ect

Rob Alcock President Gibbs-Delta Tackle
John McCulloch Vice President Langara Fishing Adventures
Gerry Kristianson Vice President Fisheries Committee

Brent McCallum Past-President Redl Sports Distributors
Syd Pallister Past-President Gibbs-Delta Tackle
Rick Bourne Langara Fishing Adventures
Michele Dusterhoft Berry's Bait and Tackle
Deryk Krefting Active Guiding & Tackle Ltd.
Mike Mitchell Outdoor Group Media
Steven Mo TD Canada Trust
Jay Mohl Clayoquot Ventures Guide Service Ltd.
Ward Morran Graywood Sporting Group
Shawn Nagurny Shearwater Marine Group
Martin Paish Oak Bay Marine Group
Terry Schultz West Coast Resorts
Lance Weber St. Jean's Cannery and Smokehouse
Darren Wright Island Outfitters
Wayne Yamauchi


SFAB was suppose to be more independent angler based but has been more or less taken over by the lodge and charter sector. As you can see Mr. Kristianson is high up on both lists and has been the lead negotiator for the last few years for the........ not really sure who's views he represents.

Committee Region Chairs
Main Board Coast Wide Gerry Kristiansen
Groundfish/Shellfish Working Group Coast Wide Chuck Ashcroft
North Coast North Urs Thomas
Bella Coola North Ken Corbould
Central Coast North Mike Rough
Kitimat North Tracey Hittel
Prince Rupert North Kevin Wiley
QCI North Urs Thomas
Terrace North Chris Culp
Upper Skeena North Michael Young
South Coast South Hugh Kingwell
Campbell River South Rupert Gale
Comox South Gerry Scott
Cowichan/Port Renfrew South Bob Gallaugher
Lower Fraser Valley South Ed George
Mid Fraser/Thompson/Okanagan South Sand MacDonald
Nanaimo South Clyde Wicks
Nootka South Cathy Daynes
Port Alberni South Bob Cole
Port Hardy South Graeme Bull
Sechelt South Hugh Kingwell
Squamish to Lillooet South John Wright
Tofino/Ucluelet South Jay Mohl
Upper Fraser River South Mike Fowler
Upper Fraser Valley South Frank Kwak
Victoria South Chris Bos

Thank you for this.

Lorne
 
If you guys have such deep pockets then go it alone. I for one believe in one voice and a unified one at that. The lodges and guides have the money and lobbying power on our side and send representatives to all of these decision making meetings. They represent sports fisher people period. If you think there is some sort of conspiracy then get off your butt and go to some of these meetings and learn how it works (one or two meetings ain't going to cut it). The biggest one you should go to and observe is the South Coast SFAB meeting. You get to hear what is going on all over the Island and Lower mainland from all the SFAC representatives. A lot of folks do it on their own time and a lot of folks have worked within the current process and system to fight for your rights as an independent angler.

I personally am thankful there are people out there working there butts off to keep us on the water. I am personally thankful there is even a system in place for the sport sector to have a voice (in the past there was not). This in fighting is getting tiresome.

Cheers ,
John
 
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@ Sculpin
I totally agree and I'm thankful for their hard work as well. Good post John.
 
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Will be going to more meetings for sure. Whats good for the guides is not always good for the average joe. Thats what im saying.
 
Who do you think hires guides and lodges?

Take Pippen for example. A pretty good sports fisherman from what I understand and how many charters does he go on a year? quite a few. Take Dogbreath as another example. That guy has probably fished more days than a lot of us combined. My understanding is he has used guides or lodges quite extensively around the world and that he is quite the experienced sports fisherman.

Sorry to drag the above members into this but I needed some examples. Those are just two that came to the top of my head. Multiply it by thousands and you get my point. I consider myself a sports fisherman and I am going to Cabo for the first time this fall to fish and get this............hiring a guide!

I can't count how many people I know that went on the Princess boats out of Ukee to cut their teeth on offshore fishing WCVI. It's an affordable way to experience some sport fishing out there for sure. I know after counting up all my receipts at the end of the year and look at what I spend on my boat and trips etc. that I would be way farther ahead if I just went on 4 or 5 charters. I know of many folks that sold their boats and do just that now.

We don't all have our own boats or buddies with boats so a lot of folks use the service's of a guide or a lodge. We are all sports fisher people and we need to stand united for our rights to fish. Divided we will fall. Posters like fish4all, wstcoaster, fogged in, and a few others keep posting up stuff to help the later. Don't fall for their crap. I've learned to read right through them now lol.

Regards,
Sculpin
 
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The SFI is industry based. Lodges, guides, tackle shops....ect

Rob Alcock President Gibbs-Delta Tackle
John McCulloch Vice President Langara Fishing Adventures
Gerry Kristianson Vice President Fisheries Committee

Brent McCallum Past-President Redl Sports Distributors
Syd Pallister Past-President Gibbs-Delta Tackle
Rick Bourne Langara Fishing Adventures
Michele Dusterhoft Berry's Bait and Tackle
Deryk Krefting Active Guiding & Tackle Ltd.
Mike Mitchell Outdoor Group Media
Steven Mo TD Canada Trust
Jay Mohl Clayoquot Ventures Guide Service Ltd.
Ward Morran Graywood Sporting Group
Shawn Nagurny Shearwater Marine Group
Martin Paish Oak Bay Marine Group
Terry Schultz West Coast Resorts
Lance Weber St. Jean's Cannery and Smokehouse
Darren Wright Island Outfitters
Wayne Yamauchi


SFAB was suppose to be more independent angler based but has been more or less taken over by the lodge and charter sector. As you can see Mr. Kristianson is high up on both lists and has been the lead negotiator for the last few years for the........ not really sure who's views he represents.

Committee Region Chairs
Main Board Coast Wide Gerry Kristiansen
Groundfish/Shellfish Working Group Coast Wide Chuck Ashcroft
North Coast North Urs Thomas
Bella Coola North Ken Corbould
Central Coast North Mike Rough
Kitimat North Tracey Hittel
Prince Rupert North Kevin Wiley
QCI North Urs Thomas
Terrace North Chris Culp
Upper Skeena North Michael Young
South Coast South Hugh Kingwell
Campbell River South Rupert Gale
Comox South Gerry Scott
Cowichan/Port Renfrew South Bob Gallaugher
Lower Fraser Valley South Ed George
Mid Fraser/Thompson/Okanagan South Sand MacDonald
Nanaimo South Clyde Wicks
Nootka South Cathy Daynes
Port Alberni South Bob Cole
Port Hardy South Graeme Bull
Sechelt South Hugh Kingwell
Squamish to Lillooet South John Wright
Tofino/Ucluelet South Jay Mohl
Upper Fraser River South Mike Fowler
Upper Fraser Valley South Frank Kwak
Victoria South Chris Bos

I guess your right once again....... You found us all out... Were all in it for the money..... LOL
 
Divided we fall, united we stand. Go from there.
 
I am not perfect and acknowledge that Lorne. Does it take money and lobbying to make change YES. Are you going to front the bill? No I didn't think so. Now that we are over that let's look at the big picture. These guy's attend every meeting. They are there to push for fair equity of the resource, to keep limits were they are at or improve upon them if the opportunity is there. What sports fishing person does want the same thing? They are making decisions that we agree upon.


Halibut:
If you read the information provided in various threads on this very site you and others would understand that CANADA'S TAC was decreased this year. The sports fishing sector increased by 3% but the total allowable catch for all of CANADA was decreased quite a bit so there was negative not gain really. "Something" had to be done help extend the season. I have a buddy that is a sports fisherman and just caught a 85 lb. hali out of Port Hardy (unguided) on the second to last day of the season. He did not have any halibut in his freezer before that. If we went about the same way as last year we would have been shut down in August for sure because of CANADA's TAC being decreased and my buddy would have been SOL.

I don't agree with the DFO model but it's what we have to work with currently. Nobody said change can not happen. Change does not come overnight either especially with the Federal Government. We live in an instant gratification society and forget that their are people that do stick it out and consol with the DFO and do get things done within the system provided. In fighting amoungst our sector is detrimental to any progress. I am just sick and tired of the bitching and negativity that brings this sports fishing forum down. We need to post more positively to help get other people involved. It's not that hard to figure out that numbers help a fight.

Regards,
John
 
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Who do you think hires guides and lodges?

Take Pippen for example. A pretty good sports fisherman from what I understand and how many charters does he go on a year? quite a few.
Sculpin


Whoa, whoa, whoa........how did I get dragged into this and what the f&$@ is an SF__ anyhow!?!???:p

Ya...I don't have a boat right now due to buying a home in the heart of Vancouver, but am in the market for one. Even when I get what I want I will still be going to lodges...and fishing with buddies who are guides....and even being the "guide" in places like Kyuquot. Let's face it the local Vancouver fishery is hit and miss and I am too lazy to drag a boat to the Charlottes....easier to rely on friends who are guides and appreciate a fun charter where they don't have to work too hard.......haha. I agree those guys are a great voice.

Having grown up on the prairies I just thank my lucky stars for being able to fish and fall in love with the west coast for the past 18 years. I am in awe all the time. I get the battle we as sporties are up against, I send my letters and donate where I can be it monetarily or volunteering. In the same respect I cherish every moment I have o get out there and fish as it brings me massive joy and awe.

Okay.....sidebar is over.



Oh.....and John......."pretty good" kind of hurts.:(

At least I can show up on time to Loudon Canyon.:p
 
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