SFI-BC Message Re. DFO Fishing Closures & Reg Changes

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May 30, 2018

CHINOOK MEASURES ANNOUNCED

Fisheries and Oceans Canada announced conservation measures for Northern and Southern BC Chinook Salmon and Southern Resident Killer Whales (DFO Fishery Notice linked here) this afternoon. Unfortunately, DFO has dismissed the significant efforts of the recreational community to develop meaningful, measurable plans and have failed to consider the impacts of the restrictions and closures to small communities and businesses along the BC coast.

Northern Chinook
The Minister’s May 23rd announcement and the notice today linked Chinook and SRKW issues together. Particularly as it regards to northern chinook fishing opportunities, this is an unfortunate, and completely unnecessary distraction. The issues on the north coast re to do with Skeena and Nass chinook. These runs do not travel much south of the central coast. The Chinook measures announced today for the north coast have nothing to do with SRKW and do not provide a fair or balanced approach to the stakeholders involved. The damage to business and small communities effected by nearly an entire month of a chinook closure in tidal waters and much longer in river will be very significant and long lasting. It is our hope that we will hear additional details from DFO to provide relief to businesses and communities for the damage caused by measures that do not seem to reflect a balanced approach but bowing to political pressure.

Southern Chinook
While there has been much discussion about the chinook measures in the south, they fail to acknowledge the tireless efforts of the SFAB to develop a plan that will address conservation needs, while at the same time retain reliable and consistent opportunity for the recreational sector. The work of the SFAB to develop a proposal to meet those needs has, like the consultation regarding SRKW, been disregarded.

It is clear to see that decisions have been made to appear as though they will make a significant difference to the recovery of SRKW although there is little or no evidence of this. While the recreational community has indicated a willingness to participate in measures that can lead to recovery of Chinook (and SRKW), the measures announced today are much more restrictive than the department itself explained was necessary to satisfy conservation objectives.

Why did this happen?

Meanwhile, efforts to actually rebuild Fraser River Chinook populations through habitat restoration, predator control and strategic enhancement have gone no where. Does DFO really believe it can restore these once great runs by “managing” the now tiny exploitation rate associated with recreational fishing? Chinook and all those that depend on them deserve solutions and investment.

SOUTHERN RESIDENT KILLER WHALE (SRKW) MEASURES ANNOUNCED

Over the past half year, the SFI has worked actively with the Sport Fishing Advisory Board (SFAB) and Fisheries and Oceans Canada (DFO) to develop sound, science-based approaches to assist the recovery of Southern Resident Killer Whale populations (SRKW). However, rather than utilizing our suggestions and the best scientific information available to implement meaningful and effective measures, DFO has undermined both salmon and halibut fishing by extending the area of finfish closure well beyond what had been put forward in Pacific Region’s consultation documents. The closures, absent of measures to address other factors and without measurable benefit for the whales, seem to be an ill-considered response to pressure from groups that are not interested in scientific facts or meaningful measures to properly aid in the recovery of SRKW.

In February, Sooke anglers and hundreds of anglers across the South Coast, were given a DFO proposal to protect whales. Not surprisingly, recreational anglers were anxious to do their part to protect this iconic species and more than 400 people attended community meetings to discuss the proposal which indicated that either a finfish closure or a salmon only closure from East Point to Sheringham Point would meet DFO’s requirements to offer a refuge from competition for SRKW for prey as well as from acoustic and physical disturbance.

Make no mistake: recreational anglers were prepared to do their part.

The recreational community provided its advice, recommended small adjustments to the boundaries as originally proposed, and indicated its willingness to accept actions that would provide measurable benefit to the whales. This was done with the clear understanding that all others who may or do produce physical and acoustic disturbance would be required to adopt similar measures at the same time.

However, rather than implement a recommendation based on solutions provided by the consultation processes, Minister LeBlanc has elected to implement a full finfish closure from June 1st to Sept 31st from East Point to Otter Point, an extended area that was never part of DFO’s original proposal.

It is critical for DFO to fully understand the significant limitations of the benefits to SRKWs and the socio-economic impact to the community of these measures.

  • To our knowledge no socio-economic impact assessment has been attempted.
  • The proposal to include the area from Sheringham Point to Otter Point will produce profound negative social and economic impacts to the adjacent community with minimal if any benefit to the whales.
  • The original proposal to implement salmon only or finfish closure starting at Sheringham Point, was conceived as a means of providing protection to whales from both competition for prey as well as acoustic and physical disturbance. The most recent proposal would provide little to no positive benefit to the whales for protection from physical and acoustic disturbance since no measures to reduce the commercial trap fishery or whale watching pressure have been included.
  • While the area has not hosted a commercial salmon fishery in decades, the closed area supports a large scale commercial crab fishery which we are told will continue.
  • The closed area proposed is a popular spot for the whale watching fleet to “interact” with the whales.
  • There is no scientific evidence to suggest that the presence of recreational fishing vessels impacts the whales ability to acquire prey. DFO research has shown that R Pod routinely and successfully hunts among recreational anglers in Northern BC waters.
It is impossible for the sport fishing community to understand why DFO chose to ignore the impacts of other marine use groups and instead targeted only the recreational fishery in a greatly expanded area. The sport fishing and southern Vancouver Island community are deeply concerned that these proposed measures may become permanent and that the sport fishery, which has supported Sooke and Port Renfrew for decades, will come to an end. Worse still, there is fear that this closure would provide no measurable benefit to the whales.

We will continue to urge Minister LeBlanc, and encourage you to send your comments and concerns to DFO and the Minister as well, to undertake the necessary research to fully understand the impacts of all marine activity on SRKWs ability to effectively forage and base management measures on science rather than crass politics.

Until next time, tight lines,
The SFI Team
 
Why doesn't SFI coordinate with all the other groups and organize some public protests showing how much money is being pulled from the economy. A protest for every town along the coast. Invite the media, local, provincial, and federal politicians.
I think we should all do a float by, with signs on our boats detailing our yearly investments in fishing, all the support business should be involved too. We need to let Justine know exactly what he has done and what it will cost him and our local communities.
There needs to be a cohesive full scale protest up and down the coast from all parties if we want to have any hope of changing this. Our opportunity is now. If we dont act we will continue to see ever escalating closures and restrictions.
Please step up.
Dave
 
Maybe do what some truckers do in protest. A slow parade of trucks towing boats on trailers jacking up traffic in Victoria and other cities. That would definitely get attention.
 
Maybe do what some truckers do in protest. A slow parade of trucks towing boats on trailers jacking up traffic in Victoria and other cities. That would definitely get attention.
It’s a tough balance because we need the attention but we can’t look like d’s to the public or they won’t support us.
We need a figure to represent us that is well spoken and extremely well educated, who can approach the government and the all of the media to clearly lay out the issues and describe how simply they can be resolved. Who could be the voice and face of sportfishing?
@Admin, what do you think of all of this?
 
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Maybe do what some truckers do in protest. A slow parade of trucks towing boats on trailers jacking up traffic in Victoria and other cities. That would definitely get attention.
That didn’t work for the truckers
 
It’s a tough balance because we need the attention but we can’t look like d’s to the public or they won’t support us.
We need a figure to represent us that is well spoken and extremely well educated, who can approach the government and the all of the media to clearly lay out the issues and describe how simply they can be resolved. Who could be the face of sportfishing?

we need to raise tones of money and lobby though closed doors. In the end were just an industry that kills salmon that whales need for food and first nations need for their culture/heritage and food.

It's hard to spin it in the media, Catch and releases is easier to spin to the public but after reading the comments on the catch and release thread, I wonder if most here find killing a salmon more enjoyable than fishing.

The protest fishery on the fraser that took place was to demonstrate that bar fishing for chinook could be done without intercepting sockeye.

https://www.theprogress.com/news/de...ar-chilliwack-to-demand-fraser-river-opening/

When DFO and the ENGO's are telling the public that A: you need to close down fishing to protect whales and B: you need to reduction to protect chinook.

Not only do we have to fight the regulators but we also have to fight the ENGO's that dont think any fishing to take place.

We need buckets of money to sway rich and powerful people and politicians. As i understand it alot of rich/influential people go fishing with guids all over the coast. IF guides educated these people and asked them for help it would probably do the most for our cause. Then again i don't think most guides want to lecture their clients that just want to fish.
 
Why doesn't SFI coordinate with all the other groups and organize some public protests showing how much money is being pulled from the economy. A protest for every town along the coast. Invite the media, local, provincial, and federal politicians.
I think we should all do a float by, with signs on our boats detailing our yearly investments in fishing, all the support business should be involved too. We need to let Justine know exactly what he has done and what it will cost him and our local communities.
There needs to be a cohesive full scale protest up and down the coast from all parties if we want to have any hope of changing this. Our opportunity is now. If we dont act we will continue to see ever escalating closures and restrictions.
Please step up.
Dave
You don’t think the public would think that we look like spoiled rich kids with thst kind of money spent on a leisure activity?
 
we need to raise tones of money and lobby though closed doors. In the end were just an industry that kills salmon that whales need for food and first nations need for their culture/heritage and food.

It's hard to spin it in the media, Catch and releases is easier to spin to the public but after reading the comments on the catch and release thread, I wonder if most here find killing a salmon more enjoyable than fishing.

The protest fishery on the fraser that took place was to demonstrate that bar fishing for chinook could be done without intercepting sockeye.

https://www.theprogress.com/news/de...ar-chilliwack-to-demand-fraser-river-opening/

When DFO and the ENGO's are telling the public that A: you need to close down fishing to protect whales and B: you need to reduction to protect chinook.

Not only do we have to fight the regulators but we also have to fight the ENGO's that dont think any fishing to take place.

We need buckets of money to sway rich and powerful people and politicians. As i understand it alot of rich/influential people go fishing with guids all over the coast. IF guides educated these people and asked them for help it would probably do the most for our cause. Then again i don't think most guides want to lecture their clients that just want to fish.
Agreed. At some point though, after closure after closure and all these new regulations fail to protect the salmon decline (and whales for that matter) can’t we call them out on their BS?!
 
Why doesn't SFI coordinate with all the other groups and organize some public protests showing how much money is being pulled from the economy. A protest for every town along the coast. Invite the media, local, provincial, and federal politicians.
I think we should all do a float by, with signs on our boats detailing our yearly investments in fishing, all the support business should be involved too. We need to let Justine know exactly what he has done and what it will cost him and our local communities.
There needs to be a cohesive full scale protest up and down the coast from all parties if we want to have any hope of changing this. Our opportunity is now. If we dont act we will continue to see ever escalating closures and restrictions.
Please step up.
Dave
They do, we (West Coast Fishing Guides Association) have a great working relationship with the SFI - have worked collaboratively on CTAG, Transport Canada issues, Halibut, Chinook measures, Log Books, DNA sampling...a long list of good things for our fishery. Our members have an association level membership in the SFI, and we also encourage a joint WCFGA/CTAG/SFI membership for $70. Bottom line is if we all don't start looking for win/win opportunities to work together to help our fishery, there are others who want to put it to an end.
 
Facts are facts and there are clear answers to why this is happening. It’s getting rediculous that they keep pointing the finger at us when we are such a low priority to fixing this decline.
 
They do, we (West Coast Fishing Guides Association) have a great working relationship with the SFI - have worked collaboratively on CTAG, Transport Canada issues, Halibut, Chinook measures, Log Books, DNA sampling...a long list of good things for our fishery. Our members have an association level membership in the SFI, and we also encourage a joint WCFGA/CTAG/SFI membership for $70. Bottom line is if we all don't start looking for win/win opportunities to work together to help our fishery, there are others who want to put it to an end.

Seems to me that SFI has a pretty small membership, most of which are guides.

(The member directory looks to be about 200 businesses).

With more awareness, that number should be over 1000.

Plus all the individuals who should sign up.

Need to start somewhere.
 
Its a very small percentage of the population that fishes salmon,the rest of the people are totally ignorant on whats really going on.The Feds and DFO know we are weak and can do nothing in retaliation.
 
Its a very small percentage of the population that fishes salmon,the rest of the people are totally ignorant on whats really going on.The Feds and DFO know we are weak and can do nothing in retaliation.

I saw a stat that sportfishing in BC is a $1 billion per year industry.

Lots of people should care.

I am not content to just roll over on this.
 
I saw a stat that sportfishing in BC is a $1 billion per year industry.

Lots of people should care.

I am not content to just roll over on this.
I agree we need high profile figureheads to become our voice in this fight. My concern is where’s our Premier, where’s Vancouver Mayor/Council, Victoria’s, Campbell River’s council, SERIOUSLY, these cities are going to get hammered financially and so far I haven’t heard a peep. Recreational fishing fills the coffers of our Provincial Gov’t, and our local businesses. We aren’t in this fight alone, but our so-called leaders aren’t leading the fight on our behalf! This is a billion and half dollar industry in BC, it’s about to get shredded by these pointless closures and so far our elected officials are silent. We need faces and facts. I think the facts are on our side and with the right approach we can get some of these closures reversed
 
For years certain people on this forum were stating fishing was very bad compared to previous years. It was posted and mostly met with answers that things were peachy. Nothing any fishing group can now do, no amount of emails or phone calls will lift the bans. The closures will lncrease as the whales die off until all the coast is done. I believe they will issue new licenses for fish farms soon.
 
They do, we (West Coast Fishing Guides Association) have a great working relationship with the SFI - have worked collaboratively on CTAG, Transport Canada issues, Halibut, Chinook measures, Log Books, DNA sampling...a long list of good things for our fishery. Our members have an association level membership in the SFI, and we also encourage a joint WCFGA/CTAG/SFI membership for $70. Bottom line is if we all don't start looking for win/win opportunities to work together to help our fishery, there are others who want to put it to an end.
That is only the guiding sector as far as I can tell. we need every group, every fisherperson to stand up and be counted. I agree we need win/win solutions, but unless the powers that be know what is at stake for the economy, and how many people are involved it wont mean a pinch of coon *****
 
we need to raise tones of money and lobby though closed doors. In the end were just an industry that kills salmon that whales need for food and first nations need for their culture/heritage and food.

It's hard to spin it in the media, Catch and releases is easier to spin to the public but after reading the comments on the catch and release thread, I wonder if most here find killing a salmon more enjoyable than fishing.

The protest fishery on the fraser that took place was to demonstrate that bar fishing for chinook could be done without intercepting sockeye.

https://www.theprogress.com/news/de...ar-chilliwack-to-demand-fraser-river-opening/

When DFO and the ENGO's are telling the public that A: you need to close down fishing to protect whales and B: you need to reduction to protect chinook.

Not only do we have to fight the regulators but we also have to fight the ENGO's that dont think any fishing to take place.

We need buckets of money to sway rich and powerful people and politicians. As i understand it alot of rich/influential people go fishing with guids all over the coast. IF guides educated these people and asked them for help it would probably do the most for our cause. Then again i don't think most guides want to lecture their clients that just want to fish.
Yes we need lots of money, but quietly negotiating behind closed doors hasn't worked. We dont need to start blockades, but we do need to make some noise, stand up to be counted, and propose realistic, viable alternatives.
 
Ask your self this fundamental question in particular to southern area. Why is whale watching allowed to continue in the forage zones. Regardless of how you feel about it step back and ask why. The industry is already going across many social media sites saying its united but really why did the government leave them alone. mmmmm.
 
Better question is who is the enemy?

Who wants us off all the water?
 
Better question is who is the enemy?

Who wants us off all the water?

Look squirrel. That wasn't what I was getting at. I am just saying an entire area just got restricted and whale watching got a free ride. Even more disturbing is that the whale watchers are happy to use the area still. Even though they know how much harm it will do to the area. That is all I am saying. Put yourself in also in the shoes of the Pender Island anglers. How would you feel if your island was closed, and they allowed whale watching. Then the whale watchers say I feel for you and then go in there anyway. Hey where is the big news media release from the whale watching association condemning the sport closure. I am sorry you guys have been had in the south, and it is crystal clear looking down on the situation. I hope I am not the only one that sees that.

Restrict us hey no one wants that. But to close an area and let whale-watching continue is totally ridiculous. Forage zone is a forage zone.

Flip it around whale watching is banned in forage zone and we still fish it. We tell them were on your side. How would whale watchers feel. Just think about that for a moment.
 
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