SFAC Victoria & Area Mar. 16/20 Mtg Minutes & Motions Part 1 of 2

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  1. Whole in the Water

    Whole in the Water Well-Known Member

    VICTORIA AND AREA SFAC MEETING AREA 19/20 Call – In Conference Call Minutes
    Monday March 16, 2020, Start: 7:06pm

    Recreational Representatives:
    Name Affiliation

    Ryan Chamberland, Chairman
    Chris Bos, Co-Chairman
    Martin Paish, Angler/SFAB Chairman
    Tom Cole, Angler, ACS
    Tom Davis, Angler
    Christopher Miller, Angler
    Jerrod Pinder, Angler
    Chris Close, Angler
    Doug Ferrier, Angler
    Gord Allen, Angler
    Richard Lake, Angler
    Jim Stephen, Angler

    Government Attendees:
    Name Affiliation

    Erika Watkins DFO
    Mia Cormier DFO

    Adoption of Minutes
    Moved Ryan Chamberland seconded by Martin Paish passed unanimously.

    Fraser Chinook
    DFO reported about letter of March 2nd sent out – DFO will roll over 2019 regs starting
    April 1st. Our area under catch and release until July 14 or 31 dependent on FMA.
    Explained regulations to those on call. Interim measures and a full review underway.
    Feed back to SFAB for their proposal.
    - Ideas from local SFACs thru to SFAB for consideration
    - 80 cm in place mid-July to allow fishing but avoiding Fraser Spring and Summer 5-2
    - DFO + SFABs working on potential opportunities
    Some of 2019 data still not in, will be ready early in-season, this is the challenge – run
    reconstructions – adult return estimates, etc. – important tools for planning fisheries.
    CHCOWG meeting on 20 Mar for discussions on possible opportunities – also mentioned
    small group look at opportunities too. Should have been an in-person meeting but
    COVID-19 changed that. Times and areas where a marked selective fishery might be
    available and fishing ops where the stocks of concern do not occur are being considered.
    SFAB are working very hard to find opportunities for us.

    Angler – Area 19 2 different components – can the fisheries in Saanich Inlet be treated
    separately there?
    Chair – Yes they can be, and that is happening in the Chinook/Coho Working Group.

    Angler – Looking at JDF and Haro as international area not just the Canadian side –
    when we consider MSF we must include the WA hatchery fish (75,000,000)
    Angler asked that this are be looked at and there is no Fraser stocks of concern until
    May 15th.
    Co-Chair asked two questions on Spring Months Fishery (i) DFO adopt a two-year
    management approach and (ii) Why can’t we fish in April – May this year for a hatchery
    fish? Conversation between multiple anglers and reps all agreed that both questions
    were valid and agreed to the following.

    Motion – offline working group for time savings – Tom Davis, Ryan, Chris, Martin to craft
    a motion to cover the above.

    Chair – We are working hard in other forums to also support the above questions. Chair
    having a call with Fisheries Minister over next few weeks.

    Angler – heat will come from those who don’t want us to fish especially in JDF. Need to
    get foot in the door with MSF for our sector if not we will lose it.
    Angler – Certain VI (West Coast) returns in 2019 were below the 4 year average.
    Shouldn’t this be considered in our fish planning?
    Response; the stocks angler is referring to are not located within the geographical area
    of this SFAC.

    Last update Mar 13th – DFO hired contractors – three boulders blasted? – moving
    forward – still not 100% that the obstruction issue will be resolved by the close of the work window.

    Chair gave a rundown of his work on the technical committees.
    Noted the support and possibility of a 1NM salmon fishing opening between
    Sheringham Point and East Point in Renfrew.
    Pat Ahern and Ryan responded for the SFAB – see document that was sent out.
    Another round of DFO request for input open now – online survey open until Mar 24th.
    Ryan proposed a one nautical corridor open area from shore out for the JDF – this was
    discussed and seemed acceptable to the Technical Working Group

    Chair ran through the 2020 regulations -
    One Halibut Per day;
    Possession Limit of 1 Halibut over 90cm to 126cm;
    Or, Possession Limit of 2 Halibut under 90 cm.

    Angler asked about proposing changes to the halibut guiding principles.
    Response; SFAB are seeking feed-back on guiding principles.

    Angler asked for a reduction in catch coast-wide to allow more halibut to come into the
    Haro and Lower Georgia Strait.
    Response; Likely not to happen. Halibut is handled on coast wide basis, not by area.
    Too many factors if that is the possible case of lower numbers of halibut in that area, if
    there actually even is.

    200 reduced to 125 per day. Prawn letter from DFO explained why. Reconciliation with
    FN was the DFO rationale. Now DFO has a department of Reconciliation and FN
    partnerships. Martin not satisfied with the responses from DFO as to reason why the
    daily catch limit was reduced. This could be a harbinger of what might happen to other
    fisheries that would affect coastal communities.

    Best practices are being looked at. Some other groups MCC believe our release
    mortality is much higher than DFO is using in their exploitation numbers. WA has
    requirement for fish have to stay in water when released. Lot of work going on in the
    background to craft a set of principles.

    Angler – look for videos of the release mortality by Terry Gjernes, Tom Bird study.
    Responses; stems from MCC pushing from FRIMM – UBC studying – Some groups
    looking for a ban on ALL catch and release fisheries. Need out of the box thinking and
    craft our best ideas into a new set of best practices.

    Angler – has DFO said they will accept Greg Taylor’s catch and release document and
    use it in fisheries management?
    Response; No they will not. They will use existing PST (or PSC not sure which)
    methodology and will not use the Patterson study.

    Oak Bay area having challenges with commercial gear in the way. Jim Steven will get
    letters from locals and work with Chris Bos to craft a motion. Chris suggested this
    happen quickly so it can go through the next GFSFWG meeting in April.
    *Jim Stephen got back to Ryan Chamberland on March 22, and discussed with Ryan that his
    effort to get letters/support from local Oak Bay anglers was not sufficient to pursue for 2020.

    Minutes Prepared by: Ryan Chamberland, Chris Bos Meeting Adjourned 8:45 PM –
    Last edited: Apr 1, 2020
  2. Aces

    Aces Well-Known Member

    Were any of the anglers attending also guides?
  3. Whole in the Water

    Whole in the Water Well-Known Member

    I think so, not sure who though. Could ask some of the other attendees.
    Last edited: Apr 1, 2020
  4. Doug

    Doug Well-Known Member

    Only one retired guide attended as far as I know, and he doesn't even own a boat.
    He just wants to contribute, understand the issues and wants people to get out fishing again.
    Derby, Aces and SpringVelocity like this.

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