Public Talk by Andrew Trites - SRKW:Risk & Realities

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Good to see this happening and probably a good one to attend. The purpose/focus seems to be to educate the public on the facts of the matter ...... "Join UBC marine mammal researcher Andrew Trites as he separates facts and research from popular assumptions " Hopefully there will be a large representation from sportfishers attending as I am sure the engo side will be represented well.
 
If you want to separate the facts from fiction i would suggest u attend this .. it is well worth you time to start to truly understand whats happening...
 
Be careful about calling Dr. Trites work "science". All he did was some research and test some theories with some data and assumptions and check for statistically significant correlations. Science involves more than "correlation". To say "X" generated "Y" and therefore disproves the assumption is a reach.

If the hypothesis is false, it's easy to take data and say X when Y may be closer to the truth.

Dr. Trites is not on side with the majority of pinniped control proposals and Dr. Trites doesn't offer total explanations, action plans, a way forward, and takes a myopic view which doesn't count for a variety of other factors. He can't, and doesn't have those solutions.

A significant amount of what Dr. Trites says offers comfort to us in the Recreational Sector and Business Owners dependent on such but there are a many questions about his presentation which amount to a "So what?".

The way forward is something that I do not believe most are politically, socially, and psychologically and socio-economically ready for. Ultimately, what was and happened "B" years ago may no longer be relevant in these times in this situation.

Don't get me wrong, Dr. Trites information is useful, but far from identifying solutions and something which should tell us to "do nothing" as opposed to "something".

I think many are making a leap embracing everything which is flying right now and seeing and believing what they want. Don't take too much comfort in that.

For starters, all these pics of the new calf born were taken with a Telephoto lens alright, but the boats were all well inside the restricted distance.

I'd recommend all attend who are remotely interested, the $10 would be well spent.

I have read and seen his presentations on a few different occasions. Check it out.
 
"For starters, all these pics of the new calf born were taken with a Telephoto lens alright, but the boats were all well inside the restricted distance."
Were these whalewatching boats or were they research boats ? (yellow flag)
 
A friend tags along with Eagle Wing Whale Watching quite a bit to take whale shots. It's a hobby for him and Eagle Wing gets some grest marketing shots in trade for a free ride. He bought a used lense for his camera that would be over $20.000 new. He gets some great shots that look like he is right on top of the whale.
 
Well worth the trip - I will be attending - ticket purchased.

I think what we might hear is some updates to research underway...current paper that is unpublished:

Wild Chinook salmon productivity is negatively related to seal density, and not related to hatchery releases in the Pacific Northwest.
Nelson, B.W., C.J. Walters, A.W. Trites, and M.K. McAllister. (in press).
Canadian Journal of Fisheries and Aquatic Sciences

Finding science-based solutions to address harbour seal predation on out-migrant smolts is an important solution.

Also think we will hear that these (SRKW) are urbanized whales as compared to their NRKW cousins who have the same diet, yet they are doing poorly. I anticipate Dr. Trites will explore this theme. Is it really diet? Could pollution be making these whales sick? Is this a disease issue? What is the role of vessel presence in reducing their ability to acquire prey - SRKW are exposed to way more vessel presence than their NRKW cousins? Dr. Trites lead a prey availability technical workshop in 2017 that investigated a number of prey issues and solutions, and an international panel landed on increasing access to prey by addressing vessel presence that creates acoustic and physical disturbance was the most viable solution.

Here's a study on impact on forage behaviour and 400 m spatial zone where vessel presence is observed to impact behaviours:
https://www.int-res.com/articles/esr2008/6/n006p211.pdf

What is the role of fishery removals when Canada has reduced marine fishery catch by just over a million Chinook - it certainly doesn't appear that there is any more juice worth the squeeze left in managing the marine chinook fisheries.

Fishery 1975 Removals 2016 Removals Reduction


ISBM 889,579 215,518 - 76% (674,061)


AABM 511,790 140,090 -84% (371,700)


The aggregate reduction in marine fishery removals totals 1,045,761 Chinook since 1975. Marine or ocean fisheries only...not fresh water.

In 2014 the rec fishery in Victoria area (Canada's highest ER for Fraser Chinook) was only 6,632 - that's enough Chinook to feed 82 SKRW for exactly 7 Days...hardly a material difference to SRKW recovery if we closed this fishery! Again, is there scientific basis to support closing marine fisheries...I think not.

One fishery that Canada hasn't looked closely at would be our Terminal in-river fishery. Might be a good case for looking at selective in-river fishery technology like fish traps they are employing in the Columbia River? Fish traps could allow a totally selective harvest where we could allow larger spawning chinook to pass up river, while selecting other fish.

Here's some data on Exploitation Rates (ER) on an indicator stream for upper Fraser Chinook


2017 ER on Dome Ck (Upper Fraser)


Fishery ER


ISBM SBC Terminal (Fraser R) First Nations 41.2%

ISBM SBC JDF (Victoria) Sport 7.2%

ISBM Troll (S + N) South/North?? 6.4%

AABM North BC Troll 5.1%

ISBM SBC Terminal (Fraser R) Sport 3.3%

AABM WCVI Spring Troll 2.7%

ISBM GST (SOG??) Sport 1.2%

AABM WCVI Sport 0.9%

ISBM SBC JST (unknown) Sport 0.1%

Maybe we can expect to hear that hatcheries for Chinook abundance are not a bad idea - a quick way to particularly increase upper Fraser Chinook. Maybe rather than spend a ton of money and time constructing a traditional hatchery requiring a river etc, how about a quick facility build in a warehouse using ground water rather than river water - a central facility in Prince George for example could supply a ton of smolts that we could raise for all the upper Fraser stocks of concern. You could even transport those down to the coast, and raise them in an ocean sea pen to get them past all the estuary predators.
 
Sweet....nets take almost half of the Dome creek Chinook within the Fraser.
Big surprise! Maybe a quicker way to increase smolts in the the river would be to cut down on the nets And get more spawned back on the spawning grounds!
 
Sweet....nets take almost half of the Dome creek Chinook within the Fraser.
Big surprise! Maybe a quicker way to increase smolts in the the river would be to cut down on the nets And get more spawned back on the spawning grounds!

Its based on CWT so head turn ins, As that is the Pacfic salmon treaty agreed way to determine exploitation,

The AABM WCVI Spring Troll 2.7% for example are required by law and fishing licence to turn in heads so their 2.7% number is probably much less. Sport and First Nations FSC for example is voluntary.

ISBM GST (SOG??) Sport 1.2%

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So with all the sports anglers that turn there heads in...FN within the Fraser still catch almost half of these fish!
Thank you for clarifying even more one of the main reason why our salmon stocks within the Fraser are getting wiped out!
 



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