My first steelhead outfit was an old RichMade 10'6" moocher with one of my dads Seldex made by J.W. Young & SON. 3 1/2 in. reel, not a fast retrieve LOL. I progressed to an Avon Royal Supreme on the RichMade, had a lot of fun with that outfit. Now I use a level wind, I want to spend my time fishing not retrieving. But once in a while I have a Silex on an 12' Sage that I break out for some fun. I still have the Avon and it works like the day it was made, I'd sell it for $125.00, if you don't know what they are, look them up, their a solid reel.