judge-asked-to-halt-salmon-fishing-in-alaska

Discussion in 'Conservation, Fishery Politics and Management.' started by Derby, Jun 1, 2020.

  1. Derby

    Derby Crew Member

  2. wildmanyeah

    wildmanyeah Crew Member

    wow I really thought they were not going to have a chance in court.
     
  3. fishbadger

    fishbadger Active Member

    This one should get pretty interesting. While we'd all cheer if AK's impacts on our migratory stocks were diminished, make no mistake, WFC is no friend of recreational salmon fishermen. . . previous and future lawsuits are aimed at us (by shutting down hatcheries with lawsuits). In this instance, the enemy of my enemy is definitely not my friend,

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  4. agentaqua

    agentaqua Well-Known Member

    I think this court case gets @ the crux of the real reason DFO/Canada enacted the SRKW restrictions on fishing that they have - that mirrored NMFSs restrictions (in Washington State - Puget Sound & JDF) under the US Endangered Species Act (“ESA”).[​IMG] They can refuse seafood shipments into the US market, as far as I understand it, otherwise. Now it's Alaska's turn.[​IMG]
     
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  5. searun

    searun Well-Known Member

    Good luck getting AK to voluntarily comply on anything. Their attitude at the IPHC is sickening, so don't expect them to take any high road anytime soon unless a Judge forces them.
     
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  6. ericl

    ericl Well-Known Member

    Could not disagree more on this one. Reality is that as much as WFC is against Hatcheries, Hatcheries aren't going anywhere for at least the next 20 years. Part of the SEAK Chinook take are ESA-listed Puget Sound Chinook.
    The Fed's argument seems weak, but who knows; this isn't over yet.

    Here is the big picture:
    https://wildfishconservancy.org/ima...ome2011journalchart.jpg/image_view_fullscreen

    If the injunction goes forward the we all get more fish NOW!! I guess I need someone who can explain to me that this is a bad thing???
     
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  7. wildmanyeah

    wildmanyeah Crew Member

  8. ericl

    ericl Well-Known Member

    Thought we were talking about AK dude - WTF. Also, you got any data, or do you just throw rocks at other peoples stuff?
     
  9. wildmanyeah

    wildmanyeah Crew Member

    I have the data yes but you constantly post agains the BC fishery so you would be the last person I would share it with.

    You care nothing of our fishery up here. Get the data from your American reps it’s out their.
     
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  10. agentaqua

    agentaqua Well-Known Member

    Ya - much of those data are tied into the CWT data. Some of that's on the PSC/PST website - but the newest data is often still being analyzed and often 1-2 years dated on the website. So, WMY is right - have to get that from the PST reps - and/or DFO stock assessment.
     
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  11. OldBlackDog

    OldBlackDog Well-Known Member

  12. wildmanyeah

    wildmanyeah Crew Member

  13. ericl

    ericl Well-Known Member

  14. agentaqua

    agentaqua Well-Known Member

    Not getting the Canadian connection in this court case, eric?
     
  15. fishbadger

    fishbadger Active Member

    Uh, yeah, sure thing.

    WFC is no friend of the saltwater sport fisher folk (or hatcheries).

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  16. ericl

    ericl Well-Known Member

    Perhaps Canadian Courts work different than US Courts - it seems to me that suing a US Federal Agency (in this case NOAA) should be done in a federal versus state court. The jurisdiction would be the court closest to the plaintiff; in this case Federal Court in Seattle.
     
  17. agentaqua

    agentaqua Well-Known Member

  18. fishbadger

    fishbadger Active Member

  19. ericl

    ericl Well-Known Member

    Ditto. Bad news for the wild WCVI Chinook; about 66% of the catch of these fish happen in the SEAK troll fishery.

    There is one more court hurdle, but doesn't look good for this year.
     

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