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Jobs, environment clash at Marystown meeting about $250M salmon farm
Whitbourne mayor says government would reject plan if it 'had any guts at all'
By Mark Quinn, CBC News Posted: Mar 14, 2018
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/grieg-marystown-meeting-1.4573778

Greig NL's plans for an aquaculture project in Marystown and Placentia Bay has raised a lot of questions
The Broadcast
March 14, 2018

24:24

We'll take you to a public meeting and hear from supporters and critics.
http://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1186654275862/
 
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Florida, the Salmon State? It could happen soon
March 18, 2018 07:51 AM
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/business/biz-monday/article205736704.html#storylink=cpy

GREAT POST Agentaqua
Another example of where the future of Fish Farms lie.
AND being built by a Norwegian company!
I do hope B.C. Fish Farms will get the message soon!
"José Prado, chief financial officer of Atlantic Sapphire, the Norwegian company that is constructing a $130-million, 380,000-square-foot facility to hatch, grow and process salmon — all on land. “We call it world-class local.”
“In the ocean nets, these fish are magnets for sea lice, which can leave them more susceptible to diseases”
 
Check out Almo's and ernest comments in the facebook comments. I like how ernest calls a fellow FN a sellout wow!

i've been saying this for awhile now, our government is doing the same thing

"Funny enough, de facto leaders of the protest movement seem to rely on Indigenous backing – a form of environmental colonialism. Meaning that, these same leaders need First Nations support to lend some legitimacy to anti-fish farm campaigns. In my opinion, they use First Nations culture, our hereditary chiefs, as tokens."


https://www.northislandgazette.com/...-industry-to-public-debate-lets-give-her-one/

Alexandra Morton challenges marine industry to public debate – let’s give her one

Still waiting for horgan and weaver to stop the leases, Their voting base should hold them to the fire if they don't stop the leases.
 
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Sure seems to be a different mind set back east ... they don't seem much concerned pink salmon are in the Atlantic and likely spawning in eastern rivers but here, the possibility of Atlantic's in western rivers is cause for alarm.
 
I also find it.... Weird that pink salmon survive in a hostile environment. All those fish farms and sealice all through Norway and yet there expanding...... Here it the fish farms fault...this is all backwards compared to what being said. Makes you wonder Dave...
 
Sure seems to be a different mind set back east ... they don't seem much concerned pink salmon are in the Atlantic and likely spawning in eastern rivers but here, the possibility of Atlantic's in western rivers is cause for alarm.


it sure is a cause for alarm. and why hasnt dfo made it so? oh ya, hidden mandates. . invasive in any way is not acceptable. even the plants in your yard that you throw over the fence is illegal.
 
My guess is DFO thinks Pacific salmon have bigger issues than the possibility of Atlantic's colonizing BC rivers.
 
Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife agrees with the Alaskan Scientists! Just how deep does this collusion go??

WDFW review of Wild Fish Conservancy’s Feb. 15 news release on presence of virus in escaped Atlantic salmon
February 16, 2018
Summary of key points

The following points are fully elaborated in the material below, prepared by Dr. Kenneth Warheit, fish health and genetic specialist for the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife:

1. WDFW never claimed that PRV was not present in escaped Atlantic salmon. In fact, in the State’s report investigating the Cypress #2 accident, WDFW was the first to report the presence of PRV in the escaped Atlantic salmon. Ms. Amy Windrope’s quote that appeared in WFC’s press release was accurate and subsequent statements at the press briefing specifically dealt with the presence of PRV and stated that WDFW found PRV in the escaped Atlantic salmon. None of the escaped Atlantic salmon with PRV examined by WDFW had HSMI.

2. PRV is a virus that is present in both captive Atlantic salmon and free-swimming native Pacific salmon. In most cases, fish with PRV are healthy, and show no signs of disease. The syndrome HSMI has been associated with PRV in Atlantic salmon aquaculture only. HSMI affects only a small subset of captive Atlantic salmon with PRV and in most cases HSMI is not fatal. See attached White Paper.

3. WFC claims that PRV is “highly contagious and debilitating,” and cites the scientific publication Wessel et al. as the source for their statement. But, the results from Wessel et al. do not support WFC’s claim; however, Wessel et al. do state “PRV is ubiquitous in farmed Atlantic salmon and thus present also in apparently healthy individuals.” The published paper indicates that in the laboratory, PRV produced microscopic signs that are consistent with HSMI, but in this study none of the fish developed a debilitating disease, and none of the fish died as a result of infection.

4. Neither the Wessel et al. nor the DiCicco et al. papers state that there are “significant mortalities from HSMI,” as WFC claims. Wessel et al. state that “[h]istopathological lesions in the heart can be found in most fish in an affected sea cage while the cumulative mortality [in Norway] ranges from insignificant to 20%.” DiCicco et al. state “[t]he disease [HSMI] has been reported also in Scotland . . . and Chile.” The data presented by DiCicco et al. for the BC farm indicates that about 0.2% of the affected fish died from HSMI.

5. WFC states that the “spread of PRV from farmed Atlantic to wild salmon has been well documented,” and cites Garver et al. as that documentation. Garver et al. describes a laboratory study where through injections and forced cohabitation the investigators demonstrate that PRV can be highly infectious. Therefore, this research does not state that PRV spreads from farmed Atlantic to wild salmon. However, it is likely that wild salmon can be
infected with PRV from farmed salmon, and likewise, farmed salmon can be infected by wild salmon. Furthermore, in addition to WFC’s misuse of the Garver et al. research, they omitted another finding of Garver et al.: even with the high infectivity of PRV, none of the test fish showed any clinical or microscopic signs of disease.

6. This paragraph is entirely speculative and not based on any “peer-reviewed science,” as claimed by WFC. WFC states that “the virus may reduce the amount of oxygen cells can transport to the fish’s muscles,” and cites another paper published by Wessel et al. However, the cited paper does not support WFC’s statement: “[a]lthough the present study suggests salmon RBC [red blood cells] can tolerate high amounts of PRV, it is not known how it affects other important erythrocyte functions, such as oxygen transport.”

7. The quote attributed to Amy Windrope was based on clinical examination, by a licensed veterinarian, of escaped Atlantic salmon re-captured soon after the spill. The veterinarian determined that these fish were indeed healthy, that is, free from disease. These fish were tested for regulated pathogens, not for PRV, which is not a regulated pathogen nor is it recognized by the World Organization for Animal Health (OIE) as a pathogen of concern. The quote attributed to Amy Windrope is accurate. WFC continues to inaccurately state the difference between a virus (PRV) and a disease (HSMI).

8. WFC is disingenuous when they label PRV as a “Norwegian virus” and WFC is implying that the PRV detected in the 19 fish they tested was brought here from Norway. PRV has been present in Salish Sea waters since at least 1987. There is a scientific debate in the peer-reviewed literature as to the origin of the PRV (eastern Pacific v Atlantic). This debate centers on viral genetics since there is little direct epidemiological evidence as to the origin of PRV. An objective evaluation, based on current information and analyses, would indicate that the origin of PRV is not known. Nevertheless and more importantly, it is unknown as to where the escaped Atlantic salmon contracted PRV. It is conceivable that the fish contracted the virus in Cooke Aquaculture’s Rochester hatchery, which if true would suggest that all the Atlantic salmon in the net pens have PRV. This would be consistent with what is known about the prevalence of PRV in Atlantic salmon net pens in British Columbia, and not a surprising result here in Washington. Alternatively, it is also conceivable that the fish entered the net pens free of PRV and contracted the virus from wild fish—a scenario that is also common in British Columbia.

9. WFC provided no data or citations that support their claim that the PRV present in the escaped fish are of Norwegian origin. See comment #8 above. In addition, although PRV genetic sequences from eastern Pacific closely resemble that from Norway, there are differences between these sets of sequences, and it would have been more informative if WFC provided information about the sequences, rather than speculating about the origin of the PRV found in the escaped Atlantic salmon.

10. Despite WFC’s claim that there is a “multitude of scientific studies,” they failed to cite a single scientific study “that demonstrate PRV from open-water pens will likely spread to and harm wild fish.” WFC also failed to state that PRV is present in native Pacific salmonids from Alaska to at least Washington, and in all cases these native fish showed no clinical or microscopic signs of HSMI or any other disease related to being infected with PRV. WDFW is methodical and objective in our evaluation of PRV, and we plan to increase surveillance for the virus in both Atlantic salmon and within our hatcheries. WDFW has been truthful with WFC and with anyone who asks us about PRV. The Pacific Northwest Fish Health Protection Committee made up of virologists, pathologists, geneticists, and veterinarians have produced a White Paper on PRV and HSMI. WDFW’s current management associated with PRV is consistent with that White Paper.
 
it sure is a cause for alarm. and why hasnt dfo made it so? oh ya, hidden mandates. . invasive in any way is not acceptable. even the plants in your yard that you throw over the fence is illegal.
So.... Careful what you wish for. Not all pacific salmon are native to there rivers. Taking the illegal /invasive approach could end programs like Chinook on the capilano and Seymour rivers. Chinook salmon are not native to those rivers and hatchery program supporting this would end. As well as net pen programs, could close down. Those fish do not have a native river to go to thus... Invasive.
 
So.... Careful what you wish for. Not all pacific salmon are native to there rivers. Taking the illegal /invasive approach could end programs like Chinook on the capilano and Seymour rivers. Chinook salmon are not native to those rivers and hatchery program supporting this would end. As well as net pen programs, could close down. Those fish do not have a native river to go to thus... Invasive.

Your post is a bit of a stretch don't you think??
The official Government interpretation is;
Invasive Species
Invasive species are plants and animals (fish) that are not naturally found in B.C.
 
Your post is a bit of a stretch don't you think??
The official Government interpretation is;
Invasive Species
Invasive species are plants and animals (fish) that are not naturally found in B.C.
not at all..... Capilano is under review, non native species
aquaculture after all is: Aquaculture is the farming of fish, crustaceans, molluscs, aquatic plants,algae, and other organisms. Aquaculture involves cultivating freshwater and saltwater populations under controlled conditions
 
All chinook stocks returning to the Chilliwack River, including the chinooks orcas like to eat, fall whites, are also non-native.
 
So.... Careful what you wish for. Not all pacific salmon are native to there rivers. Taking the illegal /invasive approach could end programs like Chinook on the capilano and Seymour rivers. Chinook salmon are not native to those rivers and hatchery program supporting this would end. As well as net pen programs, could close down. Those fish do not have a native river to go to thus... Invasive.


sure , ranch native species from native rivers. next?

and if the mistake from dfo is owned, and that west coast pacific salmon " invasives" have flourished "by mistake" in certain systems, then keep enhancing them.

too much common sense?
 
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