Coastal Returns 2019

Discussion in 'Saltwater Fishing Forum' started by SerengetiGuide, Nov 16, 2019.

  1. SerengetiGuide

    SerengetiGuide Well-Known Member

    Thought this would be a good place to accumulate all the return numbers from the coast so guys can get an idea of some Positive highlights from the year and what systems need work.
     
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  2. SerengetiGuide

    SerengetiGuide Well-Known Member

    Nimpkish River had both one of the best quantity returns and THE best size of fish return the hatchery manager has ever seen apparently. Every single fish taken to hatchery was apparently over 30lbs for brood. And had one in 65-75lb range get out of net. Quite a few over 40lbs too. Pretty cool to hear that!
     
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  3. SpringVelocity

    SpringVelocity Well-Known Member

    Best chinook return for inside of island. I will see if I can dig up latest numbers. Puntledge, Cowichan and Qualicum rivers exceeded. Coho was fair...Chum numbers were scary BC wide. Significant drop BC wide. Something weird happened out in ocean.
     
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  4. chris73

    chris73 Well-Known Member

    Sooke River: Chinook ok, Coho meager, Chum surprisingly good.

    Goldstream: Chinook bad, Coho bad, Chum ok

    go figure

    Only rumours from Nitinat: Chinook good, Coho bad, Chum bad and apparently so far Steelhead looking grim
     
  5. searun

    searun Well-Known Member

    Yup, Ocean-Type Chinook stay in near coastal waters which are colder and the Stream-Type Chinook, Chum, Steelhead, Sockeye all travel out onto the high seas and straight into the Blob....Climate change ain't real tho.
     
  6. Seaspanker

    Seaspanker Member

    Any information at all how the Robertson Creek Hatchery returns were ?
     
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  7. RBL

    RBL Active Member

    The hatchery got what they needed. So did everyone else.
     
  8. ChinookExerciser

    ChinookExerciser Active Member

  9. Derby

    Derby Crew Member

    ESCAPEMENT ESTIMATES

    Chinook
    The total chinook escapement is estimated at 34,047 adults and 2882 jacks through the Stamp Falls Fishway, and 195 adults and 26 jack through the Sproat Falls Fishway to October 20, 2019.

    Population Adults Observed Escapement target for run size Stamp/RCH 34,047 21,000 Sproat 195 n/a* Total 34,242
    *Stamp River/RCH escapement target is based on a target of 39M eggs and the predicted age composition of terminal adult returns to Barkley Sound and Alberni inlet from the pre-season forecast.
     
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  10. Wildvanisle

    Wildvanisle Member

    Sooke chums were quite low this year compared to the last 2-3 years. Did you mean good in comparison to some other systems that saw very very low returns?
     
  11. wildmanyeah

    wildmanyeah Crew Member

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  12. wildmanyeah

    wildmanyeah Crew Member

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  13. OldBlackDog

    OldBlackDog Well-Known Member

    Thompson River Coho were considered a stock of concern in 1998.

    Here we are in 2020, and NOTHING HAS CHANGED!

    What do you think will change this in the future?

    And let’s not forget about the DEMISE of THOMPSON STEELHEAD by them as well.
     
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  14. ChinookExerciser

    ChinookExerciser Active Member

    They are doing okay th0, 30k to 60k return annually. Far from in trouble but who cares marked selective fisheries are not going away and we are begging for mark selective fisheries for Chinook. Soon retaining a fish with an adipose fin will be a thing of the past. Adapt or quit
     
  15. SpringVelocity

    SpringVelocity Well-Known Member

    This is last bulletin I got on Nov 15th for Georgia straight on ECVI. Lack of Chinook was not the case on inside of island. Look at the returns on Puntledge, Cowichan, Little/Big Qalicum rivers. As a whole they were all up. The only one that was down slightly was Nanaimo Rover but they got there brood stock quite easily.

    Remember the entire BC Coast is not just the Fraser River stocks. It isn't all doom and gloom.



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  16. SerengetiGuide

    SerengetiGuide Well-Known Member

    Exactly right SV. Some areas will have to be MSF but as the inside returns show many will not.
     
  17. ChinookExerciser

    ChinookExerciser Active Member

    There is almost no where on the BC where fraser stocks or other endangered stocks have not been caught. It's silly to think that besides terminal area and times that a non MSF will take place. the old ways are done, adapt or quit
     
  18. SerengetiGuide

    SerengetiGuide Well-Known Member

    Agree to disagree
     
  19. ChinookExerciser

    ChinookExerciser Active Member

    You can disagree all you want, but these reports say your wrong. Fraser, Columbian and washington stocks are all along our coast at just about every time of year and they all have stocks that are at endangered levels. To think that were going to go about our business and not have MSF is silly. IT's going to be like coho. SG you really need to read up on the available science and see what's happened. Yeah some of it is FN reallocation but some of it is not.

    https://www.psc.org/publications/technical-reports/technical-committee-reports/chinook/
     
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  20. Whitebuck

    Whitebuck Well-Known Member

    Ahahahahahahahhah 30-60k Thompson coho returning LOFL. Not a chance there is that many returning!
    I would love to read the data on that!
     

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