Chinook closure

[Charter Tofino]

I just got back from the marina. The manager told me there is a chinook closure starting June.15 to august 15. I know there was a previous post about this but does anyone have new info? I was wondering where it will all be? Also if this is for sure?

 

[bigchrome]

I can try to ask I know a few fishery officers

 

[islandphile]

What areas???

Remember, "When the Fish aren't Biting...the Fish aren't Biting!!"

 

[Charter Tofino]

i heard the georgia straight????????????

 

[bigchrome]

http://www-comm.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/ try this wb site for information on closures
I have heard that the Nanaimo River and Cowichan River both have dangerously low chinook numbers. I believe that the Cowichan hatchery has lost all there Chinook eggs do to power failure this year. Heard numbers of over a million Chinook eggs toasted, no surprise that they are or will close parts of the straight. Fishing in the straight has decreased numbers almost every year.

 

[Charter Tofino]

I sorta hope they dont. They should only allow 10 fish a year for anglers or something but not close it completely. I can see that they may have to but my fishing years over if they do. My boats in one of those area and i cant really trailer it anywhere(cruddy trailer and i cant drive). Im crossing my fingers that they wont close it this far north. <img src=icon_smile_sad.gif border=0 align=middle>

 

[Fins -n- Skins]

10 fish a year for how many guys ? Those are the fish they are trying to protect. Get used to the fact it might be closed for a couple of years. The Cowichan won't come back for a couple of years if were lucky.

Tournament Proven !

 

[Charter Tofino]

I was just throwing that idea out its not an actual rule. I think its 15 in my area per year and 30 in most.

 

[the runt]

This is what i like about about canadian fisheries.If the stock is low they shut it down for everyone.In washington waters you buy a licence then they close it down, but only if your a sportsman, the indians are allowed to continue to rape it with nets.

thanks the runt

 

[bigchrome]

I have heard a lot of things about commercial fisheries, natives and the politics around them. I have spoken with some of the people that work for fisheries and they have said, every time that the salmon numbers start to make a come back they have more commercial openings and raise limits on salmon catches. When numbers fall dangerously low they cut back on fishing openings and limits. Apparently there is only about 2% wild stock of salmon left that are actually wild fish. At that low of a number I think it is pretty much impossible to ever have those big fish return like they did 15 to 20 years ago. It apparently repeats it self in cycles, as for natives taking everything ....not sure it’s all natives, Commercial fishermen take over there catch limit of fish in closed waters, the fines are so low it’s still worth getting caught. I have seen many Caucasians or white ethnic fishermen take over there limit. I also have seen Asian take over there limit or take undersize or out of season fish. We all need to conserve, and we really need to hit hard on those that choose to poach.

Bigchrome

 

[Dirtdog67]

Hey Kelly, I grew up fishing beachcomber marina well before your diapers were even thought of.. Back when the trailers were there we saw the numbers decrease in a heart beat. Not only on this side but as well as Sangster and Lasquiti..
I remember day's of unlimited coho while being tied up to the booms in my eight foot punt.. Places like Gerald and the spar are home to the cow, and the nan. fish during the pre-spawn months.. Anymore pressure is only going to gurantee the demise of these runs.. Ten fish each just won't cut it.-dirty

 

[Dirtdog67]

One other thing, do you get over to the 4 mile reef at all??? My last memories consist of 3 to 4 hundred american's fishing livy's only offered outta the Sechelt.. Only to think, the majority of those fish where Georgia Straight spawners that had ample supplies of bait with which to feed on.
Have you seen the acres of herring that used to spread from Grey rocks to Mistaken??
Only questions that still roam around in my dreams of truly a once classic E.C.V.I. fishery
Dude, if only you could have seen such a fishery back in the day.. Not only to think it was as close as 15-16 yrs. back..
What a few luck's won't bring out of a guy.

Kelly, take as you will, but the 1st. till the 8th. of July used to produce the most tyee's by inside standards than say the campbell on an outrageous year by today's standards..
If you know the area as well as you say you do, fish the shelf due west of G. rock. up close.. What we used to call the skinny.. Right up to the 8th or 9th, the avg's. were 32 to 35 lbs. respectively.
I am only giving it up because I have not had the chance to try it in a number of years..
Call me spoiled but a number of years in the Q.C.I.'s does that to a guy..
Let me know and in any way am I trying to play you down.. Try it.. Ask for my mail if it works out over the season.. I have access to mail, and I'll let you know what the biggest hali is at.. Not to mention the rediculous numbers of springs that are being recorded each day.. I think the daily avg. between 14 guides last season was 23 respectively a day on avg. Tight lines-dirty

 

[Charter Tofino]

The west side of gerald is probaly the best bet these days. Quite a few boats fish it though maybe 5-10 in the summer. Not much compared to port but still quite a few. Thats probaly my favourite spot. How deep is that shelf? I ushually go along the edge at 140 feet.I have heared the coho stories. I have been told you could troll to mistaken and limit out before you even get there. I haent even seen coho being caught the last 2 years. Hope it gets better.<img src=icon_smile_sad.gif border=0 align=middle>

 

[nedarb2]

Now im not saying us sport anglers are not harming the fish, but maybe the government should like said before maybe put a 10 fish limit to each angler, and changle the laws and regs on the commercial fisherman, and natives! You drive by the rivers when the fish are spawning, and there will be the natives down there with their harpoons killing 40 or 50 fish a day, and throwing them on the bank and leaving them there! Ive seen piles in their yard literly 15 feet high of rotting salmon, like its disgusting! Im not trying to be racist at all,so please dont take this the wrong way, but that in my mind is a lot more damaging than anglers catching the fish in the ocean! <img src=icon_smile_question.gif border=0 align=middle>

To fish or not to fish,
What a stupid question!
Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day, teach a man to fish, and he will sit on a boat drinking beer for a life time
TGIF =Thank God It Floats

 

[bigchrome]

I am in for whatever it takes to get Chinook number up and stable, even if it means closing the straight for 3 to 5 years. In the long run it would be worth it for everyone, the list is too long to point fingers on who is the worse. I have fished with a few guides from the Q.C.I. One said they released a 60 plus pound Chinook. Its too bad not all people have the same practices.

bigchrome

There's a fine line between fishing and just standing on the shore like an idiot.

 

[Pablo2079]

If it meant that all fisheries in the Strait were closed (Commercial, First Nations, Sport) including the rivers..... I would be in favor of a five year closure on the inside waters. We'd get to see how much impact other forces are having on a complete salmon generation. After the five years, have some staggered openings in areas that can support the fishing pressure.