Call to Action – Help Save BC’s Public Fishery

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  1. UkeeDreamin

    UkeeDreamin Well-Known Member

    Curious, what is the rationale or position being promoted by the rec sector? Presumably it isn’t “let’s fish these Fraser Chinook stocks into extinction” so, assuming that’s not it then what is it? Is there a list of areas and or times that the rec sector agrees need to be closed unless stock levels can be shown to be at “X” to support C&R fishing and at “Y” to supports some level of harvest?

    I ask as I hope most rec anglers agree that several Fraser stocks, and quite a few Skeena stocks as well, are in a very dire state and need to be conserved if we hope to be able to fish in the future. I also ask as it is very easy for other sectors and interest groups to paint rec fishers as selfish IF, and I emphasize the IF, we present ourselves as fighting to kill the last fish. That certainly isn’t the approach I support nor do I believe the majority of rec fishers want that. So, what is the message that’s consistent w/ conservation of these stocks that is being championed or recommended the rec voice get behind?

    Cheers!

    Ukee
     
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  2. Pearl dog

    Pearl dog Active Member

    sent..again
     
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  3. california

    california Well-Known Member

    Is there really any surprise from this document? the ENGOs sent out a form letter to their mailing lists that has been forwarded many times, their members don't even bother writing anything original. FN are always going to say shut everything down and give it to us, if they are asked for feedback. Commies just want sport fisherman cut back, again no surprise.
     
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  4. finaddict

    finaddict Well-Known Member

    Reply to the big 3 just sent. FWIW, I don't think they give a rats ass what we write. I been writing letters to DFO for decades on Thompson river steelhead. At best I get form letters in return stating that they are very concerned and all the wonderful things they are doing. Didn't seem to get them a lot of success with that race of steelhead. I doubt they are going to accomplish much by killing our fishing. Not unless all other sectors are also curtailed.


    Here is my letter. This one is the most terse I have ever written. I am completely fed up with trying to be Mr. Niceguy to the asshats.


    Dear Sirs,

    I am writing to you today to express my continued disappointment with the manner in which the Department of Fisheries and Oceans attempts Chinook salmon management and "knee-jerk" proposal for SRKW management in the Strait of Georgia and points elsewhere within its jurisdiction. Once again you have targeted the Sports angler directly as the sacrificial lamb to rectify all problems for the SRKW while you vacillate over studies of other direct effects that are also contributing as much or more to the issue. The decimation of Chinook stocks in the Strait of Georgia comes as no surprise to those of us who live and breathe these fisheries, this coast and this lifestyle. Decades of mismanagement of habitat and water rights protection, hatchery enhancement, illegal netting in the Fraser, over harvest by all sectors, continued commercial over-harvest of the prey species, neglect of management of predator species (i.e. Pinnipeds) and rampant lack of enforcement has led to this situation. A situation that recreational anglers and your own people have been warning senior officials for decades.

    Your proposal to dump all this neglect onto the recreational anglers of the Strait of Georgia is akin to killing the goose that lays the Golden eggs. In addition the countless hours of volunteer stream and hatchery enhancement that we donate, our contribution to the Gross Domestic Product on a per piece basis far exceeds that of all other user groups combined. The maximum value you can get for any salmon is through its availability to recreational anglers.

    As a recreational angler who fishes the ECVI and WCVI all season long from March to October, I know that my dollars spent on Vancouver Island have a very significant impact on local economies from Chemainus to Winter Harbour, but in particular from Ladysmith to Parksville on the East coast and Ucluelet and Tofino on the West coast. For inside waters, my average annual rod days is well over 100 days and on the Ucluelet and Tofino is over 80. My average annual investment is boats licensing, insurance, fuel, accommodations and local spending is well over $10,000 annually. These will all be tourist dollars that will no longer be distributed in the small sports fishing towns that rely on them to maintain their economies.

    I trust that you will be able to confidently look those people in the eye who you will have relegated to the unemployed and tell them that their sacrifice is worth it for the SRKW.

    Your in disappointment,

    Stephen Cooper
    Ladysmith B.C.
     
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  5. Koho2catch

    Koho2catch New Member

    Sent
     
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  6. casper5280

    casper5280 Well-Known Member

    2 letters sent
     
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  7. RODNREEL

    RODNREEL Active Member

    SENT
    United we stand divided FALL. :mad:
     
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  8. Derby

    Derby Crew Member

    seems the Minister is being asked to write... :) :)
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  9. Cuba Libre

    Cuba Libre Well-Known Member

    What is needed at his office is BODIES with picket signs. Easy to ignore a letter--not so easy with live bodies and the press attending.
     
  10. seagal

    seagal Member

    Sent 2 letters. Keep the pressure up guys.
     
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  11. searun

    searun Well-Known Member

    Actually those "form letters" are not being well received. Personal letters are the BEST approach - realize not everyone is a letter writer, but your letter doesn't have to be pretty, just say what is on your mind (well leave out the 4 letter words). :eek:
     
  12. searun

    searun Well-Known Member

    100%, and I would add to that we need to be picketing the ENGO groups that are behind the "close the rec fishery" movement. These people need to feel the sharp end of the stick....some of the 9,000 people employed in the rec sector should go stand there and ask why the ENGO's are trying to take away their jobs or close down their businesses and communities!!
     
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  13. searun

    searun Well-Known Member

    The rationale is we can use selective fishing techniques that allow opportunity and expectation of catch, while allowing Fraser stocks of concern to pass through areas where they are encountered. BTW, the difference between Option A and Option B is 0.008% lower Exploitation Rate (ER) for the rec sector. We think there are ways to use science (DNA and CWT) to inform us as to what areas/times and fishing rules will successfully pass those Fraser fish successfully to the River.

    ALSO, if we go with Option A, that would require in-river FN's fisheries to be reduced by 60% in order to achieve the 5% overall goal....whereas, if we select Option B the FN's in-river contribution drops to 15%.

    BUT, no one wants to actually use the science - far easier to listen to politics and make feel good decisions and put 9,000 jobs at risk...Western alienation in action. We will see just how much a western job is worth, as compared to those same 9,000 jobs at SNC Lavalin.
     
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  14. Admin

    Admin Admin Staff Member

    Cleaned up this thread. Thank you @searun for consistently providing reasoned and important information for all of us.
     
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  16. SerengetiGuide

    SerengetiGuide Well-Known Member

    Need it to be actual science based and data based closures. Right now it’s all political and we have NO push back. It’s ridiculous. I believe they documented one Chinook...ONE from stocks of concern caught in area 12 last year...yet they are proposing restrictions on it an further north even...its absolute insanity that will have devastating consequences based on zero data...in fact data that goes the opposite way against what they're doing.
     
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  17. UkeeDreamin

    UkeeDreamin Well-Known Member

    Appreciate that!

    Cheers!

    Ukee
     
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  18. Stizzla

    Stizzla Crew Member

    Well said! I too am done with the “pretty please sir” tactic.

    These sob’s are f’ing things up and I’m p’d right off! It’s a bunch of g.d. b.s. is what it is!

    Letter sent!
     
  19. SerengetiGuide

    SerengetiGuide Well-Known Member

    Strong belief that form letters have very little influence. It's a simple copy and paste. I think the 900+ individual rec letters explaining personal situations would have much more influence. I don't know how fisheries views it but to me the engo's form letter numbers are negligible. Maybe some but nothing like what we did IMO viewing it unbiasly. Write more letters to him even now. If it was based on science I'd get behind it but much of what DFO has put forward in this document is not...which is even more infuriating. SCHEER 2019!
     
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  20. wildmanyeah

    wildmanyeah Crew Member

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