Anchor setup

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Just curious what you guys would recommend for an anchor setup.

I need to find out more about the hali spots i'd fish but Constance
would be one. The boat is a 16' Hourston.

Thanks!!!
 
Hire me and ill show you all that you need to know about how and what to do regarding anchoring out there it can be tricky if not me for gods sake go out with someone who HAS!!!! done it before many times.

I have seen too many people loose boats or wrecked there legs from not knowing what to do out there just some friendy advice.
Good luck Wolf
 
Get one of those large Buoys and a Slider (I don't know the proper name) so you can use the Buoy to raise the Anchor.
Then you can use the setup for Prawn traps as well.
The Slider costs about $25 and is worth every nickel.
Any Marine store can sell you one and tell you how to use it-too tough to do it here with these 2 fingers.

that's why there's a warranty!
 
Hey that's great guys......i've watched people pulling the anchor with the gizmo u refer to. I'm more specifically not sure what weight of anchor and style i should be looking at. As well the length and type of line/rode u recommend. Wolf your suggestion is a very good one as i'm not so sure i know someone who can show me the ropes on this one.
 
No need to pay anyone anything anytime.
Go to a Marine Supply store and ask for what's suitable.Better yet go to two stores and compare.
The biggest thing apart from the right kind of Anchor-if this board wasn't so old fashioned I could show you a picture of the kind you need-is chain twice the length of your boat to make the Anchor lie down.

that's why there's a warranty!
 
You need to have a large size scotchman (round, orange inflatable buoy) attached to your anchor line with one of those slider devices mentioned in the previous notes. This makes retreiving and moving your anchor much easier.

One of the best choices for anchors is the plow type, but not esential, just make sure that the anchor is the right size for you boat.

Important: Make sure that you run a safety line from the eye on your stern to the eye on your bow and then attach a line with a quick release to this safety line and then to your scotchman buoy.

This does 2 things. First, it allows the anchor line to easily slide forward to the bow allowing the bow of your boat to face the wind and waves. Second, it provides a quick way to release the boat from anchor by simplily cutting the safety line in an emergency.

If you have to cut the safety line you can then go back and get your anchor by retreiving the scotchman buoy. Anchoring in deep waters that are subjected to tides and weather have proven to be very dnagerous for smaller boats over the years, so play it safe and use a safety line.

Sharp hooks and full traps!
 
Just a minute Rodbreaker would you take out your own appendix or would you hire a professional like a docter!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was simply stating what i see out there on a day to day basis and im sure there would be more than 1 question while I set the gear out you dont know until you see the whole thing in action and why,and the reasons for it being done on all different levels it is cheaper in the long run to learn it right the first time than learn the hard way of your anchor and all your rope and the retriever and the frustration when you lose your gear which is about 350 dollars.
Think about it!!!!!!!!!!

Good luck on that Wolf

Good suggestions whole in the water.
 
Wolf is not off the mark. Besides, the guy at your local marine store can't help you if you screw up. There's quite a trick to rigging all your gear just right and then understanding how it works. My buddy actually rolled his boat the first time he tried to anchor on Constance Bank. Anchoring in current may not be the sort of thing you want to learn through trial and error. I did it for the first time last year, and let me just say there's a learning curve to be sure. I did get in one situation (a situation I now know better than to repeat) where I actually needed to cut the rope. Thankfully, there was no loss of gear ...just a few marks on the gunnel <img src=icon_smile_angry.gif border=0 align=middle>.

Remember, it's called "fishing," not "catching."
 
I would suggest going to Trotac for your gear. They will give you the best deal on rope anywhere in town. Get their 400 foot halibut special - 99 bucks I think - comes off a huge spool out back, so you might have to wait for them to cut some up, but good luck finding 400 feet of rope anywhere else for that price. They also have the rest of the stuff you will need. Definately get yourself an e-z retrieval system. I dont understand why folks are still strong arming their anchors? The folks at Trotac can also go over how to launch and retrieve your anchor. Remember to get 20 or more feet of good chain as well.

PS. I have a rubber maid storage bin I use to dump the lot in as i retrieve it - anchor and all.

Its easy once you get the hang of it!!

Red
 
Relax you Guys-Wolf's a good Guy but he has to have his chain yanked here from time to time just like anyone else <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

I agree that places like Constance Bank are nowhere to learn how to do things on your own-not without a sharp knife on hand anyway.<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

that's why there's a warranty!
 
You need more than 20 ft of chain this I know from doing, also i only use a 10 lb anchor you have to think totally different when anchoring in deep water with wind,current,depth there are very many factors thats why I take out lots of people that want to learn about hali fishing thats why its called GUIDING.
Wolf
 
Uncle Roy is more than right. The anchoring system is a simple plan if you leard where and what your limits are. Roy has showed and given me many tips that make it much more comfotable out there. It is still spooky out near the race with unpredictable currents and 30 feet of chain that would just love to wrap around a nice chunk of Vancouver island rock down there. I have seen a new 622 explorer stand on end because of this in a simple routine retrievel of the anchor. That current swings your boat and the chain may or may not go with it!!! If you wrap your chain on a current change you better have a look at the gps to see wich way to unrapp upon retrievel.
 
I have been reading the posts on anchoring systems, another guide well known in Sooke showed me that it is best to connect the chain at the "hook" end of the anchor. Then, when anchoring, use a piece of coathanger to hold the chain where you would normally connect the chain to the anchor. Now, when running to pull the system up, the chain pulls away from the top end of the anchor and then it pulls the anchor out backwards, thus the anchor does not get stuck because it is being pulled out backwards.
 
Yes that works i use zap straps real big thick ones because you dont want it breaking while your anchoring only when it gets stuck.
Good luck Wolf
 
Whole in the water.
Could you please explain in some more detail, the safety line w/ quik release, from stern to bow. Thx.
 
OK, instead of hooking the anchor to the chain where you normally do, you attach it down at the other end of the neck, down by the forks of the anchor. When you go to set the anchor, you run the chain tight to where you would normally connect the chain to the anchor and at that point, you tie it with either what Wolf uses, the zap strap, or I just use a piece of coat hanger. That way, when you go to pull the anchor off the bottom with the scotsman/pulley setup, it breaks the zap strap or coat hanger and pulls the anchor out from fork end. This virtually eliminates any hangups on the bottom. Hopefully that helps.
 
This is great info...thanks guys.....i believe Hardtimes was hoping for more info on how to rig the safety line.
 
re: safety line

You attach a rope that runs from eye of your bow cleat (the one you use to pull your boat out of the water) to the stern of your boat (there's a cleat on either side of my transom, but I suppose you could also use a cleat attached to the gunnel at the stern if it's strong enough). You then have a rope that attaches the safetly line to the scotchman, and you attach the rope to the safetly line using some sort of qiuck release eye for at least two reasons. Firstly, the eye on the rope attached to the safety line will allow the rope to slide back and forth on the safetly line, so once all your gear is in the water, the rope to the scotchman slides up the safety line to the bow as the boat pushes against a current. That's what you want, the bow facing against the current. If the stern faces the current you may swamp your boat as the water tries to push over the transom while the anchor tries to force you down against the current. Secondly, if you get in any sort of trouble (waves or current or both), you need only to cut (or release) the safety line and your boat is no longer attached to the scotchman (nor therefore the anchor) because the disengaged safety line will slide out of the eye on the rope that was holding you to the scotchman. Your boat is free to float away, but you can still go back to retrieve all your gear attached to the scotchman.

So as you can see, the safetly line comes in quite handy. Without it you just have all sorts of problems. If you attached the rope from the scotchman to your bow, it's hard to release in an emergency. And if you attach the rope anywhere else, your bow won't face the current the way you want it to (for reasons already mentioned).

Hope this helps.

It is also quite useful when you retrieve your gear.

Remember, it's called "fishing," not "catching."
 
Red monster you are right but the only thing i do different is I put my safety line on a part of my boat which is about 3/4 back from the bow the reason why is very simple to "pull"a boat under from the stern corner.To test this just stand on the back corner of any boat and it goes down very easily so when its just past mid ship it will take a lot longer to pull the boat down also its quicker for me with that rope position if i do have to cut it its very close and handy (never had to yet)any second you have even if its only 5 seconds can save your life.

The other thing I do also is put a little ball in between my boat and the scotsman and on that little ball attached through it is a big huge caribiner (sorry dont know if thats spelled right)with a ten foot piece of rope with a big eye loop on and the other end has the caribiner which you let slide down the safty line.because when i get a big fish on and i have to take chase i simply go up to the bow with a hook grab the rope unclip from the little ball and drag the ten foot piece of rope back to mid ship now your drifting away as soon as your done with the fish you run back up to your anchor grap the little ball reattach the big eye loop back on and your all set again if you dont good luck on getting your rope if there isnt alot of current the rope will fall deeper into the ocean and tring to grap it in wind and current can be rather challenging.

Even with all the hundreds of trips i have done anchoring even now i dont like it its the part i dislike the most about hali fishing it all comes down to simple respect of what the ocean can do it can kill you or tip your boat in a blink of an eye it has no mercy (remember perfect storm)people out there dont look at the conditions sometimes you always have to be watching the weather and wind ill be heading in because i see a storm comimg and ill tell guys that but they figure there "tough enough" or yep we see it we will head in a half hour i can tell you one thing no stinky slimey hali is worth my life and by the time they do go the get back and always say holy cow was that ever rough and snotty guess we should have gone in earlier.As there telling me this I just look at them think to myself man are you guys ever dumb but they never learn go figure it???????? simple RESPECT.

Hope that helps!!!!!!

Good luck Wolf.
 
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