A message from the Sport Fishing Institute. Everyone please read

Discussion in 'Saltwater Fishing Forum' started by Last Chance, Oct 17, 2019.

  1. Last Chance

    Last Chance Admin Staff Member

  2. scott craven

    scott craven Well-Known Member

    I believe that any "non Conservative vote " will lead to another 4 years of what we have seen in 2019.
    In fact it will likely get a lot worse.
     
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  3. wildmanyeah

    wildmanyeah Crew Member

    I think a lot of what the Liberals will do to our fishery depends on the type of political pressure they get from ENGO's and First Nations.

    If ENGO's decide to push SRKW stuff hard we could see different measures taken. If First Nations ask for more restrictions or more fish to get passed to them we could see more restrictions.

    There is a lot of other things brewing as well that if ENGO's like the raincoast push for harsher measures it could be worse.

    Both groups seem to have the ear of the current Liberal government.
     
  4. ronj

    ronj Active Member

    Coming from Alberta...... I have to say I am very impressed with the message of this video... I feel like most of us could not understand why BC was against Conservative votes. It felt like BC wanted to shoot themselves in the foot...... Very well done video. Refreshing... thanks!
     
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  5. calmsea

    calmsea Well-Known Member

    I agree with most of this and yes, Wilkinson needs the boot. But Conservatives are unelectable. An oil tanker stuffed westcoast and a collapsing climate is not helping salmon nor BC fishermen.
     
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  6. scott craven

    scott craven Well-Known Member

    The way I see it, a vote for NDP or Greens will likely only help the Liberals back into power.
    Their agenda with the ENGO's will carry on and we won't be fishing.
     
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  7. wildmanyeah

    wildmanyeah Crew Member

    If we went carbon neutral tomorrow, The climate would not even start to feel the effects of the reduced carbon output for 40 to 50 years. China has stated they will reduce their carbon output but not make huge changes till 2030. Climate change is going to affect to effect our salmon for the next 80 years +

    Yes we need to do something about it but the fact is we won't be alive to see the planet cool. In fact the planet is never going to cool back to the way it was we are only aiming to stablize it at some higher tempture then it is now. The is the sad reality of climate change. http://theconversation.com/if-we-st...-right-now-would-we-stop-climate-change-78882

    The Blob is only going to get worse in our lifetime. That is what climate science is telling us.
     
  8. pescador

    pescador Well-Known Member

    This province is full of people who luv the Green Party or NDP. The shift is further left each year. Universities are no longer places where critical thinking and freedom of speech occur. Even high schools are full of far left teachers who push their values on young minds who have no world experience. If you don’t agree with Greta you’re stupid, if you don’t agree with Liberal/NDP/Green immigration policy you’re a racist. You can’t speak out against left wing policy. You’re labelled. And not in a good way.

    I can’t vote NDP when Jagmeet says he doesn’t respect Conservatives or their values. I thought he was supposed to rep all Canadians? Guess not. And Liz May, not going to ever vote for someone who idolized a murdering terrorist (Omar Khadr). JT, there’s not enough space here to tell you everything that’s wrong with him. There’s a lot there, but threatening to take my guns, that did it for me. If we end up with a Liberal/NDP coalition, we’re f*cked.

    People no longer sympathize with causes that aren’t global in nature. They don’t give a shit about a few local fisherman in B.C. It’s very sad. While definitely not perfect, the only choice I see is Andrew Scheer.
     
  9. Newf

    Newf Well-Known Member

    Great video, very well done. I agree with the overall message that the government failed us with respect to the fishery, especially in the last year. However I question if a change in government will make much of a difference. As noted in the video, many of us thought things would be better when we got a minister from this coast. We all know how that went. A change in government may be needed for many reasons, too many to list here, but I'm not so sure we will see much of a change in the fishery with a conservative government or any government for that matter. The ENGO's and First Nations have become more powerful in past years and recents governments appear not to have the will or inclination to stand up to them. Also the Conservative, if they get in, may come out in support of "Big Business" when it comes to the fishery and we all know that "Mr P" is not without pull. Many of us may want to see the Liberals go but don't hold your breath that it will be a change for the better when it comes to the fishery. The fishery did not get to the state it's in, just in the last 4 years. I will however continue to be optimistic that all groups will work together to make the fishery sustainable for years to come so that our future generations get to enjoy this wonderful coast the way that we do..
     
  10. dradons

    dradons Active Member

    Only addressing problems that we will be alive to see is what got the planet to where it is. That is the sad reality.
     
  11. wildmanyeah

    wildmanyeah Crew Member

    So what is the green solution, Close down all fishing until the planet stabilized in 100 years? After all with the increasing global temperatures and the blob reducing salmon survival the orcas will need all the salmon they can get to increase their population. To allow allow an ever increasing FSC take and allow indigenous fisheries only??

    vote patagonia right dradons?

     
  12. dradons

    dradons Active Member

    Settle down their bud. I never once said Patagonia had the right solution at all. It is utopic for sure and is likely unattainable. We have been kicking the cans down the road for lots of environmental issues, all I am saying.
     
  13. Whole in the Water

    Whole in the Water Well-Known Member

    Great video and totally agree that we need to get rid of Trudeau and his liberal govt. Just wish we had better choices/leaders from the other federal parties.:confused:
     
  14. Filletandrelease

    Filletandrelease Well-Known Member

    All of our politicians past and present have contributed to many of the problems we have due to inaction and ineptness. And anyone thinking this election is going to change a single thing worthwhile is laughable. We are in for much more of the same regardless of who is in power. The tipping point of the democratic ideal is upon us.
     
  15. kingblazer84

    kingblazer84 Well-Known Member

    The problem is whoever we vote in will fail miserably at whatever they "Promise" always OVER promise and Under Deliver! If all these morons would just give 3 things they want to do per term and do them well, we wouldnt be a complete cluster all the damn time.
     
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  16. habberdasher

    habberdasher Active Member

    I am afraid that in my sixty years of sports fishing I have never felt that any government or DFO has ever understood or cared about our west Coast sports fishery.
    I wish the oceans could be managed like Our fresh water
     
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  17. disco

    disco Member

    If Liberals are rewarded with another term in office, why would they cease their corruption lies and deceit? They would take the win as confirmation their policies are popular.
     
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  18. Derby

    Derby Crew Member

    Not to change the subject but the fresh water management is a thread on its own and has been totally mis managed at least with steelhead for 30 years... :)
     
    Last edited: Oct 17, 2019
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  19. habberdasher

    habberdasher Active Member

    You are totally right I guess I was just referring to put and take Trout
     
  20. habberdasher

    habberdasher Active Member

    Hey Scott why don’t you run as a independent you would have my vote for sure!
     
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