All Things COVID-19
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islandboy
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Go to 9:08 on the video.
Gov. Cuomo nails it: "We didn't really close down the economy.
We closed down the economy relative to what we were doing, you still go to the store to get groceries ..."
In this crisis, as in war, the financial differences between the rich and the poor are rebalanced.
This balancing of lifestyle mainly hurts the wealthy. If you are feeling the pinch, take a long hard look around.
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Peahead
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My thoughts are that CCG's message is really no different than that of BC's health officer in that staying home is recommend to be safest most efficient way to stop virus spread however for mental health reasons it was also stated as perfectly acceptable to go out for walks in the sunshine and soak up some healthy rays of sun as long as one is not sick with any symptoms and continues to follow appropriate safe protocols such as distancing from one another, hand washing etc. In answering a question about boating, the BC health officer also said as long as boating is done alone or with those from your same household then she felt was an acceptable activity. There is always a risk that anytime you go anywhere you could have an accident and require assistance however I'd suggest risk always has to be balanced with any benefit of an activity. Does one not go outside because there is a very small chance they might have an accident and require help ? It seems this decision is being left to the individual to decide and I feel as long as stated safe distance and hand washing protocols are adhered to when heading out then its acceptable. One of the common locations for injuries requiring assitance are in your own home. I also disagree that services such as C-Tow don't want your business if you were to break down in your boat.
CCG states: " [CCG] is asking anyone who is sick or has been in close contact with someone who has COVID-19 to resist the temptation to get on a boat. " so if not sick or been in close contact with someone who is known to have COVID, CCG is saying right there that boating is otherwise acceptable to them - of course only with those you live with/same household.
IronNoggin
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We are giving up our freedoms in the fight against COVID-19. The question is will we get them back?
Does freedom – a true freedom of strong precepts rather than meaningless platitudes – interfere with what we must do to survive? And, if it does, how much freedom will we surrender to remain alive, free from disease, adequately fed and suitably housed? All of it? Some of it? None of it?
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opi...r-freedoms-in-the-fight-against-covid-19-the/
Does freedom – a true freedom of strong precepts rather than meaningless platitudes – interfere with what we must do to survive? And, if it does, how much freedom will we surrender to remain alive, free from disease, adequately fed and suitably housed? All of it? Some of it? None of it?
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opi...r-freedoms-in-the-fight-against-covid-19-the/
GLG
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I live near the flight path of the coast guard helicopter and did notice that it was called out a few times this week. Don't know any details but I do notice when the come and go. Seems to me if they are saying that they have been busy then we should take care. Most on this website are seasoned boaters and know the drill when we take the boat out for the first time in the spring. It's those that don't that the message was pointed to.
SerengetiGuide
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/brit...dence-lifting-restrictions-rises-bc-1.5544585
Addresses current and second wave not being as bad as some fearmongering may imply
Addresses current and second wave not being as bad as some fearmongering may imply
ILHG
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You are correct with the gloves and mask. My wife is a waste water plant operator. Calgary is a hotspot right now and her plant effluents contain Covid 19. She is in direct contact daily with the ****. Like @walleyes says there are ways to work & not catch it. For her it is proper PPE and making sure her work lab clothes are treated as contaminated. Staff are checked daily for temperatures also. They are down to minimal amount of pepole required & have a 10' distance policy at work. No more lunch room or coffee pots.
1/ I really don't think using the term "fearmongering" as a way of discounting & invalidating the input from the health professionals is neither responsible nor accurate,
2/ You seemed to miss the last comments by this ER doctor in this article: "Eisen says he's also more confident but adds a note of caution. The virus won't vanish. "The thing that worries me is that the general public will take any relaxation of restrictions as carte blanche to carry on with the old normal life."
If I test negative for COVID-19, am I clear?
https://www.cbc.ca/radio/whitecoat/if-i-test-negative-for-covid-19-am-i-clear-1.5527301
Coronavirus: What's happening in Canada and around the world on Sunday
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/coronavirus-covid19-1.5545450
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SpringVelocity
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islandboy
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The good news is that most folks are smart enough to understand what is going on and have the fortitude to deal with it.
Look around and see the clever individuals who are making their business Covid-proof. Others who have stepped up to find success in assisting the frontline workers. More than that I see neighbors chatting, safely, with neighbors. Parents discovering their children's strengths.
As the song says; "A man sees what he wants to see, And disregards the rest." Paul Simon
wildmanyeah
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Yes things are getting rolling germany is opening it’s car plants and Italy is opening some things up may 4. Spain is allowing people outside.
tightlines
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First off correlation does not equal causation. Hasn't 20% of New York been infected with Covid? Probably more. Also - Stroke rates have been rising amongst the young every year for a long time. Probably due to high blood pressure, diabetes, diet, lack of exercise, obesity. Americans don't have a high prevalance of any of these do they? Another thing to consider - since the stay at home orders people have been doing what? Sitting on the couch typing on fishing blogs ALL DAY
Sitting for long periods has been proven to increase DVT, which can lead to clots and stroke. I wouldn't read too much into it at this point.
Reeltime
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Perfect, i keep nothing but busy, fishing, cooking, gardening...i really limit the news, way to much thrown around info... just taking it day by dayFirst off correlation does not equal causation. Hasn't 20% of New York been infected with Covid? Probably more. Also - Stroke rates have been rising amongst the young every year for a long time. Probably due to high blood pressure, diabetes, diet, lack of exercise, obesity. Americans don't have a high prevalance of any of these do they? Another thing to consider - since the stay at home orders people have been doing what? Sitting on the couch typing on fishing blogs ALL DAY
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wildmanyeah
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Yes half to be careful pretty much every study being reported on right now is from a covid pre print source.
SpringVelocity
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First off correlation does not equal causation. Hasn't 20% of New York been infected with Covid? Probably more. Also - Stroke rates have been rising amongst the young every year for a long time. Probably due to high blood pressure, diabetes, diet, lack of exercise, obesity. Americans don't have a high prevalance of any of these do they? Another thing to consider - since the stay at home orders people have been doing what? Sitting on the couch typing on fishing blogs ALL DAY
Only sharing information. I don't really have the experience or medical degree to back the comments/story. It was just something to be aware of that was posted.
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