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The authorities in a few jurisdictions have apparently come up with a creative way to enforce lock downs that seems efficient; they tow their cars. I suspect they won't be towing at the Pharmacy, Dr's Offices Hospitals, Grocery Stores and other Critical Infrastructure, but everywhere else you could lose your car. So if your neighbor is having a party with a bunch of their friends. You report it, the police turn up quietly, check the license plates that are not local, then call a fleet of tow trucks and the cars are gone for months. Why would you put others at risk to return them and its a crisis so nonessential work will be delayed. In that time they would of course rack up thousands of dollars in various fees, particularly storage. Not staying home and going to closed down parks to play a close contact sport like basket ball, their cars are gone, but they will get exercise walking home as general use transportation will be closed down. The police would have reduced direct contact with offenders, no administrative and court costs etc. Normal due process and rights are suspended. I kind of like it.
 
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We had a “Things In a Box” party last night with 11 people. We did it online using a uber onference video call. One person read the card to all of us and then each person texted the person whos turn it was to be judge our answers. Then we took our turns trying to guess who said what. It was slow to start until we played a couple rounds and then went well enough that we agreed to do it again next weekend. So there are ways to get together without risks to anyone and still have some fun with friends.
 
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After being exposed to the virus that causes COVID-19, it can take as few as two and as many as 14 days for symptoms to develop. Cases range from mild to critical. The average timeline from the first symptom to recovery is about 17 days, but some cases are fatal. Here's what it looks like to develop COVID-19, day by day.
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Not down playing the seriousness of this virus, but for those calling for a "lockdown" across canada for everything but non essential businesses, do you understand the economic impact of that? We are already going to be in a recession but now your talking depression and most likely irreversible damage to our economy. Unemployment of over 50% and likely higher. Business going bankrupt and people losing there lively hoods and homes. You think the money the government is offering will do anything to stop that? Nope just soften the blow slightly for some. But most will fall through the cracks and not qualify for any of the money the government is offering. As of right now any business owners dont qualify for anything. Its pretty clear this will be months not weeks, and with a huge portion of people living paycheck to paycheck and are one missed paycheck away from insolvency, this is a disaster of epic proportions in the making. Even large businesses like hotels have said if this continues for longer than a month over 30% will go out of business. At a certain point decisions will have to be made whether to reopen businesses and risk spreading the virus or accept the economic disaster thats already started.
 
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Not down playing the seriousness of this virus, but for those calling for a "lockdown" across canada for everything but non essential businesses, do you understand the economic impact of that? We are already going to be in a recession but now your talking depression and most likely irreversible damage to our economy. Unemployment of over 50% and likely higher. Business going bankrupt and people losing there lively hoods and homes. You think the money the government is offering will do anything to stop that? Nope just soften the blow slightly for some. But most will fall through the cracks and not qualify for any of the money the government is offering. As of right now any business owners dont qualify for anything. Its pretty clear this will be months not weeks, and with a huge portion of people living paycheck to paycheck and are one missed paycheck away from insolvency, this is a disaster of epic proportions in the making. Even large businesses like hotels have said if this continues for longer than a month over 30% will go out of business. At a certain point decisions will have to be made whether to reopen businesses and risk spreading the virus or accept the economic disaster thats already started.
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A lockdown may be necessary because some folks will not follow the rules. People will continue to need goods and services. Some businesses will fail but others thrive. If we do not heed the warnings some businesses will fail, regardless. Not because of a recession but because owners and key staff are dead.
 
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Not down playing the seriousness of this virus, but for those calling for a "lockdown" across canada for everything but non essential businesses, do you understand the economic impact of that? We are already going to be in a recession but now your talking depression and most likely irreversible damage to our economy. Unemployment of over 50% and likely higher. Business going bankrupt and people losing there lively hoods and homes. You think the money the government is offering will do anything to stop that? Nope just soften the blow slightly for some. But most will fall through the cracks and not qualify for any of the money the government is offering. As of right now any business owners dont qualify for anything. Its pretty clear this will be months not weeks, and with a huge portion of people living paycheck to paycheck and are one missed paycheck away from insolvency, this is a disaster of epic proportions in the making. Even large businesses like hotels have said if this continues for longer than a month over 30% will go out of business. At a certain point decisions will have to be made whether to reopen businesses and risk spreading the virus or accept the economic disaster thats already started.
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I think this is literally about life vs death. Also these measures (and perhaps more) are necessary to avoid the healthcare system from being completely overrun with urgent cases. The sooner people take the restrictions seriously and the sooner more restrictive measures are taken the better off we all are (health wise).

There's no doubt that there will be an economic impact. The governments have been slow to implement restrictions because they don't want to cause economic disruption, but as each day goes on the situation is also becoming more urgent.
 
The lack of testing in BC seems to be a problem, and is leading to underreporting of cases. Example below:

My sister-in-law (SIL) works in a cramped office of approx 20 people. She's now at home sick; likely a case of COVID-19. Here's her timeline:

March 4: co-worker 1 feels sick and goes home
March 10: co-worker 2 has asthma and feels sick, goes home
March 12: SIL feels unwell with chills and extreme fatigue...keeps working
March 14 (Saturday): co-worker 2 has breathing difficulty and is admitted to hospital
March 17: SIL comes to work even though feeling awful, works full day
March 18: SIL stays home, has terrible cough and extreme fatigue with fever
March 19: SIL phones 811 line, is told to go to Urgent Care. Goes to Urgent Care and is asked "why are you here?" and is sent home
March 22 (Sunday): SIL's company calls her to report that Co-Worker #2 has confrimed case of COVID-19, also that co-worker #3 is sick and the office will be closed for 1 day for extra cleaning.
 
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The lack of testing in BC seems to be a problem, and is leading to underreporting of cases. Example below:

My sister-in-law (SIL) works in a cramped office of approx 20 people. She's now at home sick; likely a case of COVID-19. Here's her timeline:

March 4: co-worker 1 feels sick and goes home
March 10: co-worker 2 has asthma and feels sick, goes home
March 12: SIL feels unwell with chills and extreme fatigue...keeps working
March 14 (Saturday): co-worker 2 has breathing difficulty and is admitted to hospital
March 17: SIL comes to work even though feeling awful, works full day
March 18: SIL stays home, has terrible cough and extreme fatigue with fever
March 19: SIL phones 811 line, is told to go to Urgent Care. Goes to Urgent Care and is asked "why are you here?" and is sent home
March 22 (Sunday): SIL's company calls her to report that Co-Worker #2 has confrimed case of COVID-19, also that co-worker #3 is sick and the office will be closed for 1 day for extra cleaning.
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So there's 20 new cases plus whoever they all infected when they went home each night. What a disaster.
 
Rain City said:
So there's 20 new cases plus whoever they all infected when they went home each night. What a disaster.
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Yeah, that's the problem! People are contagious before they show symptoms, so they happily go about their normal routine. This is why things need to get shut down for a while
 
Our federal government cant even deal with terrorists blocking rail roads & trying to damage trains.

Do we really think they will be capable of inacting & enforcing laws to stop all of the retarded pepole who are putting pepole at risk & causing this to be dragged out for months......Nope...
 
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