Protest the ENGO's request to close salmon fishing
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triplenickel
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I understand what you’re saying, I also understand and respect that this is your sandbox. However I think these are all related issues,we’re seeing the same tactics of misinformation from the same few groups targeting an ever expanding number of our resources. It’s been known for years that tides and the like has been after our energy sector but it was dismissed by many in the fishing sector and on this board, now they’re stronger and more financially able than before and coming after more Canadian resources. All being driven by foreign interests, it’s proven old news. The more we can point it out and educate the less impact they’ll have. This whole internet thing is new, we’re just learning about the issues and ways to combat them. Silencing conversations will do no good. They won’t be stopping after fishing is shut down. No disrespect meant.
Gong Show
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I'm so tired of this 'read my link' bs.
You have real people on this board that get it and actively contribute towards the environment and the salmon in positive ways every day.
They are regular members and posters here.
Then you have some keyboard activists, with no credentials, posting up some bs links from bs fund my activist lifestyle sites.
Stop!
Put up or shut up new activist bs spreaders. This is not about getting likes on your screen held device, or scoring points with your activist friends.
It is time for the adults in the room to talk and be heard.
You have real people on this board that get it and actively contribute towards the environment and the salmon in positive ways every day.
They are regular members and posters here.
Then you have some keyboard activists, with no credentials, posting up some bs links from bs fund my activist lifestyle sites.
Stop!
Put up or shut up new activist bs spreaders. This is not about getting likes on your screen held device, or scoring points with your activist friends.
It is time for the adults in the room to talk and be heard.
Aces
Well-Known Member
Yeah, there’s no demand for our garbage oil
http://vancouversun.com/news/local-...ds-to-huge-jump-in-crude-oil-exports-from-b-c
So I guess the feelings are its an acceptable risk, its not for me the so called better cleanup is a joke. there is no cleanup that will ever work spending more money on it is a waste of money that will be payed for by us not whoever theoretically buys the old pipeline. Subsidies and tax breaks mean that we are paying for some company to eventually take over and get any profits from it if any company ever wants to buy it. Pipelines spill all the time you just don't hear much about it in Canada because the media and government are run by the capp and don't want the negative light on their agenda. Its in Canadas national interest to build refineries not pipelines but then we would have to stop being a colony, if the oil sands were such a great thing with a future why would shell pull out. I wasn't trying to bring up pipelines on here but if you want to make assumptions about what im saying that's fine I will go with it. Im not a journalist so I don't have the time to look at numbers and report them for you but if you want some try checking out websites that do give numbers like the narwhal or hakai magazine instead of believing right wing think tanks that promise prosperity from an industry the rest of the world is trying to get off. Look at the pictures of oil covered beaches and tell me those images are acceptable for our coast not just some ******** about jobs
Derby
Crew Member
lets just keep shipping the oil down the rail then..Perhaps instead having the list of what doesn't work..perhaps come up with so sort of solutions because like it or not like it will be done.. that there lies the problem... stop everything and give zero solutions that are acceptable.... but in the means time lets just screw over the people that actually really care about salmon and for the most part have dictated there whole lives to fish...fish habitat and the well being of fish.....
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Guess this got missed from a few posts back.
I think it is time for many of you to use your ignore option rather than add fuel to the debate. Speaking of fuel...this thread is quickly deviating from a topic about fishing once again. Non related fishing posts will be removed immediately.
I think it is time for many of you to use your ignore option rather than add fuel to the debate. Speaking of fuel...this thread is quickly deviating from a topic about fishing once again. Non related fishing posts will be removed immediately.
fish brain
Crew Member
Hello everyone,
With no announcement of of the proposed fishery closures for this year, it's time to finalize the details of our protest of the NGO's request to close down our coast to Chinook fishing before it's too late. They are meeting at sunset labs 400 Herold st https://sunsetlabs.ca/event/2020-vision-rcf/ I propose that we gather outside at 6:30 to peacefully protest their proposal to close the coast to fishing.
Are there any well spoken volunteers who would like to be the point people in the event that the media would like to speak with us?
Signage? What should our placards say?
I know at the beginning of this thread I asked if anyone would donate money to fund this protest. It doesn't look like they will be needed, so please hold on to your money for now. What will be important is a large turnout, so please plan to attend, and share this widely with your other social media networks.
Also please don't forget the PSF presentatin on the Salish Sea Marine Survival Project https://www.sportfishingbc.com/foru...ts/duncan-ssmsp-talk-april-15-2019-pdf.44687/
With no announcement of of the proposed fishery closures for this year, it's time to finalize the details of our protest of the NGO's request to close down our coast to Chinook fishing before it's too late. They are meeting at sunset labs 400 Herold st https://sunsetlabs.ca/event/2020-vision-rcf/ I propose that we gather outside at 6:30 to peacefully protest their proposal to close the coast to fishing.
Are there any well spoken volunteers who would like to be the point people in the event that the media would like to speak with us?
Signage? What should our placards say?
I know at the beginning of this thread I asked if anyone would donate money to fund this protest. It doesn't look like they will be needed, so please hold on to your money for now. What will be important is a large turnout, so please plan to attend, and share this widely with your other social media networks.
Also please don't forget the PSF presentatin on the Salish Sea Marine Survival Project https://www.sportfishingbc.com/foru...ts/duncan-ssmsp-talk-april-15-2019-pdf.44687/
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SpringVelocity
Crew Member
Well that was fun. Lots of dodging questions on that presentation. We had a couple of well pointed questions.
fishin solo
Crew Member
Any details?? Summary of what happened?
SpringVelocity
Crew Member
fishin solo
Crew Member
You have a link or something ?
SpringVelocity
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fish brain
Crew Member
I went to the protest last night.
Only two other rec guys showed up, there were about thirty or forty guides who came. The lack of participation from the rec fishers is disappointing. There is tons of chatter on this forum about people being pissed off, yet only two other people who's jobs don't rely on having a fishing season bothered to get up from in front of the television and spend a couple of hours to let the government know they have had enough. If we want to have a fishing season in the future you guys need to start to put your money where your mouth is and get active. Attend meetings meetings go to protests, write letters and donate dollars to the cause. Otherwise STFU when the government takes your rights away because as far as I'm concerned you lost your right to ***** when you remained silent and did nothing.
Rant over!
Only two other rec guys showed up, there were about thirty or forty guides who came. The lack of participation from the rec fishers is disappointing. There is tons of chatter on this forum about people being pissed off, yet only two other people who's jobs don't rely on having a fishing season bothered to get up from in front of the television and spend a couple of hours to let the government know they have had enough. If we want to have a fishing season in the future you guys need to start to put your money where your mouth is and get active. Attend meetings meetings go to protests, write letters and donate dollars to the cause. Otherwise STFU when the government takes your rights away because as far as I'm concerned you lost your right to ***** when you remained silent and did nothing.
Rant over!
Deewar25
Well-Known Member
there were several of us being hecklers online and cleaning up the misinformation that was being spewed when it came up as well - did seem they cut things off pretty quick when they were starting to lose their leverage (didn't even answer a single online question), but felt like it was good to get other messages out there to the clueless sheep that give money to these idiots. It can't hurt educating them so hopefully some of them had their eyes opened a bit.
Islander57
Well-Known Member
Heckling doesn't do much to help our cause. I watched the entire video that was posted. What is the remarkable difference is the message they put out. We as sports fisherman all knew prior to this the impact these types of closures would have on coastal communities. These closures were inevitable, and when they present a well structured, multiple impact argument to the decline of early run Fraser stocks and how that all ties into the state of the SRKWs, and we come back with literally nothing....then who s going to win? We need to structure ourselves better, invest in scientific studies and have the right people vocalizing our concerns if we want to get ahead. The one argument they made, which I do agree with, is our reliance on hatcheries to bring back the stocks. Hatcheries have their place, no doubting that, but stream and river enhancement projects, protections of those habitats and allowing more wild stock to carry on the gene pool are much more important. If we are going to protect our ability to fish and retain, then I don't think constantly fighting out in the open is doing us any favours.
fishin solo
Crew Member
Very weird as I was told not to come to this and protest. I think there is a bunch of miscommunication going on what each group thinks is the best approach to this situation we all are in now. Honestly somehow we all need to get on the same page and get our **** together before it gets worse.
Derby
Crew Member
Have to say it was interesting evening attending this event... amazing the information presented with zero scientific backing & the spinning of that information as fake news.... I'm very happy i did attend to actually see first hand the side stepping of pretty much all questions asked....
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