Fish Farms

[bones]

Speaking of *sigh* - yes - we have been through this exact debate/conversation numerous times bones. We answer your questions - you pretend not to have the seen the posts - and ask the same questions over and over again - and round and round we go.

On the top right of every page on this forum is a search bar. I would encourage you to inform/educate yourself by using it to see the answers to the same questions you keep asking over and over again. Good luck.

You spent so much time typing your response my dear and could have saved yourself sometime by just answering the question. If fish farms are disease factories what disease are they pumping out? People have been saying things like this on the internet and have had legal action taken against them for false claims. All I'm looking for is what the disease is called, if you cant produce this, I'm sorry..........seems like your cause has short falls. It might cause, or it could cause decline in... This is all back door outs for the author's. Pseudo science.

 

[bones]

https://thenarwhal.ca/salmon-are-showing-up-in-the-arctic-in-record-numbers/

 

[bones]

https://biv.com/article/2018/07/sci...il&utm_term=0_c5e00a74ef-04525b7c7f-211242645

 

[agentaqua]

Researchers say lobster catch figures off Port Mouton show negative impact of salmon farm
http://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1274941507821/

 

[agentaqua]

Editorial: N.L. as regulator vs. investor
http://www.cbncompass.ca/opinion/editorial-nl-as-regulator-vs-investor-222231/

 

[agentaqua]

Why are these salmon jumping?
By Joshua Rapp LearnJul. 13, 2018
http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2018/07/why-are-these-salmon-jumping

 

[agentaqua]

Canadian Salmon Firm Admits Using Lobster-Killing Pesticide Near Maine Border
By Bill Trotter - Bangor Daily News • May 17, 2018
http://mainepublic.org/post/canadia...r-killing-pesticide-near-maine-border#stream/

 

[fogged in]

Canadian Salmon Firm Admits Using Lobster-Killing Pesticide Near Maine Border

According to a CBC report, Northern Harvest Sea Farms admitted Tuesday to knowingly using the pesticide Salmosan 50 WP, without getting prior approval from the province, in an attempt to combat a sea lice.
Kills crabs and no doubt Prawn eggs as well.
Is this the same stuff used in B.C.???
“The product does not treat juvenile attached sea lice which may be present with the pre-adult and adult stages. These juvenile stages will develop into pre-adults and adults in 10 to 20 days when the population count should show whether a second treatment is necessary. All fish on the site should be simultaneously treated. Resistance is known to occur where incomplete treatments are carried out. To help prevent resistance occurring ensure the correct dose and duration of treatment is accomplished. Only fully enclosed treatments should be used. Repeated use of the same class of chemotherapeutic agent may result in the development of resistance. In order to reduce the risk of resistance to the product developing, the product should be used as part of a rotational strategy in the medicinal treatment of sea lice.”

“The product is very dangerous to crustaceans and is dangerous to fish and other aquatic organisms; therefore the product should not be used in sea farms where crabs and lobsters are in close proximity of the treated cages.”

 

[bones]

using the pesticide Salmosan 50 WP, without getting prior approval from the province, in an attempt to combat a sea lice.

 

[Whole in the Water]

These polluting salmon net pens can't get out of the ocean fast enough! It is disgusting and shameful how our govt's continue to allow these lice farms to continue to harm the marine environment! Need to get them out of the water and onto land now, before more harm is done!

https://theferret.scot/45-lochs-polluted-fish-farm-pesticides/
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/apr/01/is-farming-salmon-bad-for-the-environment
http://www.seafoodwatch.org/ocean-issues/aquaculture/pollution-and-disease

 

[bones]

Atlantic salmon farm employees are required by regulation to examine their fish every two weeks, at a minimum, for regular sea lice counts during March 1 to June 30, to coincide with Out Migration of wild salmon. If those counts show an average of three motile lice per fish, companies are required to take action to reduce the absolute lice count over subsequent weeks. This means either treating the fish (see “Treatments”) or removing them, if a harvest is planned.

When exceeding the three-motile abundance, numbers and the planned management response must be reported to DFO within 7 days.
https://seawestnews.com/bc-salmon-farms-and-sea-lice-management/

 

[fogged in]

B.C. government 'very interested' in moving open-net fish farms onto land.
“Fish farms are a soup of fish, feces, and mucus. It’s a rich environment for sea lice to reproduce and multiply.
Sea lice epidemics plague the Atlantic salmon farming industry worldwide.
Each year outbreaks cost the global industry over $1 billion.”

No word on how much it costs the Wild Salmon industry!!!

Let’s hope Open Net Pens are moved to dry land sooner rather than later!!!
Big money talks, but it can’t buck reality forever!!!!

 

[Dave]

That photo sure gets a lot of exposure, anyone know the photographer? Where it was taken?

 

[bones]

That photo sure gets a lot of exposure, anyone know the photographer? Where it was taken?

Apparently Scotland has lice problems.... Maybe from there

 

[fogged in]

That photo sure gets a lot of exposure, anyone know the photographer? Where it was taken?

Sorry can't help you on that particular photo Dave, but if it's Sea Lice photo's you are looking for they are a dime a dozen!!
here a just a few.

 

[agentaqua]

The 1st one in FIs #712 post look like chum that managed to loose a few adult/motile lice - that look like leps (Caligus often have a pink sheen). Could be anywhere in BC where juvie chum managed to find leps - from adult fish - likely near FFs. Doesn't narrow it much - or matter much. They're dead fish swimming..

 

[Dave]

Well, you can bet that swim in the container will help them also. I agree, fish sampled like that are dead fish.

 

[fogged in]

That photo sure gets a lot of exposure, anyone know the photographer? Where it was taken?

There seems to be some doubt on the source of the Sea Lice Photo's.
Maybe Cermaq will release some for those who like to follow the Sea Lice Photo's or Clayoquot Action might have some
https://clayoquotaction.org/mission/

“Fisheries and Oceans Canada (DFO) says it is investigating the management of sea lice at Cermaq Canada farms in Clayoquot Sound to determine if there has been non-compliance with the licence conditions.
Half of the company's 14 salmon farms in the region on the west coast of Vancouver Island have reported sea lice levels at or above the threshold that requires treatment.
Potential risk to wild salmon
The conservation group Clayoquot Action closely monitors the publicly available reports on sea lice at fish farms in the region.
"We've never seen an infestation like this," said Bonny Glambeck, with Clayoquot Action.
"We think it is really important that the provincial and federal governments take a close look at this."
High levels of the parasite are particularly concerning because vulnerable wild salmons smolt are leaving rivers and entering the ocean at this time of year, she said.”

 

[wildmanyeah]

That photo sure gets a lot of exposure, anyone know the photographer? Where it was taken?

Its more almo pictures

http://aptnnews.ca/2018/05/26/b-c-fish-farms-treating-sea-lice-outbreak-with-hydrogen-peroxide/

(Sea lice attached to a juvenile salmon in Clayoquot Sound. Photo courtesy Alexandra Morton, May 2018)


https://thetyee.ca/Analysis/2018/05/17/Sea-Lice-Overwhelms-Fish-Farms-Clayoquot-Sound/

Sea lice attached to a juvenile chum in Clayoquot Sound. Photo courtesy Alexandra Morton.

This one is from 2007 and from the david suzuki foundation

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn13046-sea-lice-may-be-driving-wild-salmon-to-extinction/

and the 4th one is from an irish fish farm

http://www.salmonfarmsireland.com/2013/09/complaint-may-reopen-sea-lice-inquiry.html

all posted by activists, I am sure they do account for some wild salmon mortality and fish farms in dense areas seem to amplifier seal lice infestations. sea lice infestations.

Regardless fish farms are here to stay in Port Hardy. Far to integrated into some first nations communities to ever see thoes farms leave our coast.

This subject is pointless now, Anyone hear planning on attacking farms that the first nations like???

 

[agentaqua]

Its more almo pictures...all posted by activists, I am sure they do account for some wild salmon mortality and fish farms in dense areas seem to amplifier seal lice infestations. sea lice infestations...This subject is pointless now, Anyone hear planning on attacking farms that the first nations like???

Agreed it's pointless whether or not Almo posted the pics or not - there's not a "lice fairy" putting lice on those fish - other than FFs (likely).