FN signs MPA.

[OldBlackDog]

Tsawout First Nation signs declaration of marine protected area

In a first of its kind on the Salish Sea, the Tsawout First Nation has signed a declaration protecting a 155-kilometre area off the east side of the Saanich Peninsula.

www.cheknews.ca

 

[OldBlackDog]

So, no concern about this, right?
FN will police this according to their rules.

 

[Hardy Guy]

there will be more to come. It will be interesting what they try to do to "manage" the area.

 

[Whole in the Water]

I dunna think this is going to bode well for the public fishery - once again we are left out from the negotiating table and thrown under the bus by DFO & their political masters!

 

[onefish]

Pandora's box being let open. Nothing good will come of this from a recreational point of view.

 

[SpringFever552]

So, no concern about this, right?
FN will police this according to their rules.

I would but ill get banned, fk it,..
Buddy who flys with the patrol plane outta CR says most of the illegal fishing they see in mpa and rca, sponge reef or closed areas are...
drum roll...
1st nations.... what!??

 

[wildmanyeah]

This one is mostly over commercial shellfish rights but we all know how this will boil over into the rec fishery.

Franky tho its not worth spending brain power on what the government and first nations decide to do is almost completely out of our sectors control.

 

[SpringVelocity]

Nailed it agree WM.

Guys need to get past your various differences with FN and carve another way forward. Like it or not we are going to be working more closely with these communities. I see it more as an opportunity then anything negative.

I would say I am more concerned lately with divisiveness with of certain members within our groups. That seems more of threat than what FN is doing with MPA right now of you ask me.

Besides anyway I believe the Sidney anglers are actually going to have a new SFAB chair that looks after that area finally. I believe some of the members already have a good working relationship with FN in salmon project etc ? Sound like an opportunity there.

Just my view

 

[agentaqua]

Instead of taking somebody's word for it - as to what fisheries are legally permitted in RCAs - see:

Rockfish conservation areas: You can protect British Columbia’s tiger and other inshore rockfish

Rockfish conservation areas: You can protect British Columbia’s tiger and other inshore rockfish| Pacific Region | Fisheries and Oceans Canada

www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca

 

[Hardy Guy]

FN can fish in an RCA but most Nations ask their fisherman not to and and even print that request on the permit......................................... but most do anyways.

 

[agentaqua]

and the sponge reefs are generally quite deep - I can't see anyone w/o hydraulics or a big trawl net trying it, neither. And have a look at many of the names publicly posted on the Pacific region convictions under the Fisheries Act and on another thread: https://sportfishingbc.com/threads/fisheries-fines-from-yesterday-no-names-no-pack-drills.92955/

I won't highlight cultural backgrounds - but it's pretty apparent to me whom many of the offenders are and their connections. The whole Scott Steer thing also leads there, as well:

Long time poacher STEER gets 6 months in jail

Maybe he will serve 1 month and get out for good behavior...

sportfishingbc.com

Check out the Scott Steer rap sheet --- glad they got him

http://www.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/media/charges-inculpations/pac-eng.htm

sportfishingbc.com

 

[agentaqua]

Another decent reference on what is going on in MPAs/RCAs and the like - instead of simply taking someone's word for it:

Information archivée dans le Web | Information Archived on the Web

publications.gc.ca

 

[wildmanyeah]

its not someones word its traditional knowledge

 

[agentaqua]

its not someones word its traditional knowledge

 

[SpringFever552]

and the sponge reefs are generally quite deep - I can't see anyone w/o hydraulics or a big trawl net trying it, neither. And have a look at many of the names publicly posted on the Pacific region convictions under the Fisheries Act and on another thread: https://sportfishingbc.com/threads/fisheries-fines-from-yesterday-no-names-no-pack-drills.92955/

I won't highlight cultural backgrounds - but it's pretty apparent to me whom many of the offenders are and their connections. The whole Scott Steer thing also leads there, as well:

Long time poacher STEER gets 6 months in jail

Maybe he will serve 1 month and get out for good behavior...

sportfishingbc.com

Check out the Scott Steer rap sheet --- glad they got him

http://www.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/media/charges-inculpations/pac-eng.htm

sportfishingbc.com

So because you can't see "it" happening, it doesn't, hah
Just because the gov turns its back on going after and laying charges, and we ALL know why that happens, again means its not happening,
Its happening, the flight crews take the info, pass it on, and it goes nowhere , unless its a sector the authorities know dam well they will get convictions.
End of my replys to this thread

 

[agentaqua]

So because you can't see "it" happening, it doesn't, hah...

That's neither what I posted nor intended, SF. Most of the sponge reefs are generally quite deep. That's what I posted. The 7 in SoG are often 500 to 1000 fms (6 ft to a fathom), the 4 large ones in Hecate Strait ~100 fms. Most are 100-200 m or ~350-650 ft deep. Yes - you are correct - there are a number in Howe Sound - maybe 7 or so out of 15 in Howe Sound that are more in the 50-100m depth ranges and would be more accessible & attractive to handline hauling verses needing hydraulics/electrics. There is a good discussion on the difficulties of hand pulling gear from depths at:

Targeting Black Cod

Just wondering if and how people are targeting Black Cod. I would like to give it a try and looking for some pointers. Thanks.

sportfishingbc.com

The expected focus on where poaching may happen while not having hydraulics/electrics to haul gear would be more in the RCAs verses the sponge reefs. They are generally shallower. I wouldn't expect some random buddy observer in a plane to know depths or think of these differences - if he even exists or was quoted accurately.