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Thunder21 said:
I have got one shot. I had a big explanation typed but the long and short is I’m not high risk, I’m not obese , I work alone a large majority of the day , I live on acreage out of town and keep to myself for the most part. I don’t like the way the government is handcuffing people into this. My wife is a nurse and pregnant. She worked part time through this while most people hid. So she will be fired for not getting this shot. Today we went to get her second shot. She asks the nurse if she should be concerned , being pregnant and all. The nurse word for word says “ they haven’t done any studies on pregnant woman but there have been no issues “. Now I don’t think that’s true, and I don’t feel comfortable having my unborn kid be a guinea pig but we essentially have no choice or she will lose her license to work. This is not a nice position to put someone in , especially in Canada and especially after working through the last 18 months and risking our other kids when she comes home daily. I hate anything woke which is the direction Trudeau has taken this country so I push back when I see it.
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This has been studied extensively and has been for months. I posted a reply back in May when this came up.

GLG said:
Great news as of today your wife can get priority vaccinated.

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They have not stopped tracking this issue and a quick search came up with this from the University of Washington .

Study: Pregnant women do well with COVID vaccine​

“Overall the vaccine is very well tolerated,” said the lead author of the paper published today.
August 17, 2021

A survey of more than 17,000 pregnant and lactating individuals who received the COVID-19 vaccine showed that the individuals did not experience symptoms any more severe than their non-pregnant counterparts.

The UW Medicine study, published today in JAMA Network Open, showed “there were not any increased reactions in pregnant individuals beyond what is expected from a vaccine” said Dr. Linda Eckert, a professor of obstetrics and gynecology at the University of Washington School of Medicine and the study’s senior author.

“Pregnant people do well with the vaccine,” added lead author Dr. Alisa Kachikis.


more here:

https://newsroom.uw.edu/news/study-pregnant-women-do-well-covid-vaccine
 
Thunder21 said:
I have got one shot. I had a big explanation typed but the long and short is I’m not high risk, I’m not obese , I work alone a large majority of the day , I live on acreage out of town and keep to myself for the most part. I don’t like the way the government is handcuffing people into this. My wife is a nurse and pregnant. She worked part time through this while most people hid. So she will be fired for not getting this shot. Today we went to get her second shot. She asks the nurse if she should be concerned , being pregnant and all. The nurse word for word says “ they haven’t done any studies on pregnant woman but there have been no issues “. Now I don’t think that’s true, and I don’t feel comfortable having my unborn kid be a guinea pig but we essentially have no choice or she will lose her license to work. This is not a nice position to put someone in , especially in Canada and especially after working through the last 18 months and risking our other kids when she comes home daily. I hate anything woke which is the direction Trudeau has taken this country so I push back when I see it.
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I understand where you’re coming from, and while I don’t have a pregnant wife, I do have young children at home, 10 & 9. My wife is a nuclear medicine technologist in an acute care hospital. She has worked full time (plus call) throughout the pandemic and has personally scanned over 50 confirmed covid + patients. My decision (and my wife’s) to get vaxxed was to protect them as much as ourselves. If the Delta variant has taught us anything, it’s that completely healthy people (including kids) can get incredibly ill (and die) as well. And frankly, I believe all HCW should be mandated to get the vaccine, knowing that there’s a large amount of 20 somethings that my wife works with that continue to party and get together with large groups of friends many days per week. (14 of them just spent 5 days in Penticton together in the same house) I’m preparing for online schooling this fall (and the ruining of my hunting season) because there is no chance that kids under the age of 12 aren’t going to suffer because of the Delta variant and peoples’ refusal to get vaccinated. Disclaimer…I hate Trudeau as much or more than most, but vaccinations are for the greater good
 
Thunder21 said:
I have got one shot. I had a big explanation typed but the long and short is I’m not high risk, I’m not obese , I work alone a large majority of the day , I live on acreage out of town and keep to myself for the most part. I don’t like the way the government is handcuffing people into this. My wife is a nurse and pregnant. She worked part time through this while most people hid. So she will be fired for not getting this shot. Today we went to get her second shot. She asks the nurse if she should be concerned , being pregnant and all. The nurse word for word says “ they haven’t done any studies on pregnant woman but there have been no issues “. Now I don’t think that’s true, and I don’t feel comfortable having my unborn kid be a guinea pig but we essentially have no choice or she will lose her license to work. This is not a nice position to put someone in , especially in Canada and especially after working through the last 18 months and risking our other kids when she comes home daily. I hate anything woke which is the direction Trudeau has taken this country so I push back when I see it.
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lots of case studies here that this doc has collected - just may help you feel better about your situation:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1422600847465369602
https://twitter.com/x/status/1420525400762077188
 
Just heard today that a formerly healthy, thin and fit PE teacher/coach friend of mine whose whole family got covid prior to vaccination availability is still not right. He is trying to do a bit of exercise to get ready for the new school year and can barely get out of bed the next day. This long haul stuff is scary (but rare).
The rest of the family is fine.
Also heard that Interior Health has put the brakes on sport competition (can still practise), as has the Central Okanagan SD.
As someone whose entire life and career centered on sport, this makes me sad. They have to let the kids play, even if they need to apply mandatory vaccinations as part of it.
The worst part is the lower vaccination numbers for the eligible in Interior Health have now screwed the kids here, while younsters elsewhere can still play.
 
walleyes said:
You nailed it. I am double dosed with the Phizer just got my second dose last week. But that was my choice and that’s what the few of us are trying to push home here. We did at one time live in a somewhat free country, where did that go. Many on here don’t respect freedom nor do they want it that’s obvious. They can’t get our country pushed into full blown socialism fast enough but that doesn’t fly with all of us.

And again we are not getting fed the full truth on all this that we know. I am going to share a personal experience here.

2 weeks ago we had the virus hit us at work. We had 9 out of 22 people get infected with the Delta variant, as we found out later. But the boys didn’t show signs until they were darn near home on days off so by the time we got a handle on it, we had 9 infected. We didn’t shut down we kept operating we just put in some extra protocols. We are talking about young healthy men hear all in the early 50’s to early 20’s. My son being on of them. None of these men were vaccinated. None of those men experienced anything worse than a bad cold, some like my son was not even close to bed ridden for more than 1 day. He said he’s had worse hang overs. But what did hit us all on the strange side and what keeps us on the weary side is Alberta Health’s reaction to it. 5 out of the 9 are Alberta boys the others from BC. The Alberta boys were hounded every day by Alberta Health to turn themselves into the hospital. They would not accept they were not sick enough. One of the fellows had to litterly lose it on them and demand they quit hounding him. He was not sick he did not want to go into the hospital. So when I experience things like this how can we fully trust the info we are being fed. How many people that are in the hospital right now over this even have to be there or are they there because they were told to be. Drive the numbers up to drive home a mandate.

I tell you they make it tough to trust anything that’s comes out of their lying cake holes.

And that kids is a true story.
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I have another anecdote for you. My friend who last week spent 46 hours on a stretcher in a hallway at Royal Inland. He had a heart attack and ER stabilized him, but could not transfer him to ICU because of four unvaxed Covid cases on ventilators.

He was eventually transferred to Kelowna for angiogram and had two stents put in, now recovering at home.

Like your story, this is an anecdote that means little in the overall picture, but this is real. We could ask the govt to do nothing and let the cases run, reveal it all to be no worse than a bad flu season. But that is what happened in Northern Italy 18 months ago, and none of us would want the reality of that.

The only reason we have the luxury of thinking it's all blown out of proportion is because the precautions have worked and we in BC haven't seen what the full **** blizzard looks like.
 
tubber said:
Just heard today that a formerly healthy, thin and fit PE teacher/coach friend of mine whose whole family got covid prior to vaccination availability is still not right. He is trying to do a bit of exercise to get ready for the new school year and can barely get out of bed the next day. This long haul stuff is scary (but rare).
The rest of the family is fine.
Also heard that Interior Health has put the brakes on sport competition (can still practise), as has the Central Okanagan SD.
As someone whose entire life and career centered on sport, this makes me sad. They have to let the kids play, even if they need to apply mandatory vaccinations as part of it.
The worst part is the lower vaccination numbers for the eligible in Interior Health have now screwed the kids here, while younsters elsewhere can still play.
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one of the people I know that got covid still does not have there sense of smell back and that means can’t taste food.
 
sly_karma said:
I have another anecdote for you. My friend who last week spent 46 hours on a stretcher in a hallway at Royal Inland. He had a heart attack and ER stabilized him, but could not transfer him to ICU because of four unvaxed Covid cases on ventilators.

He was eventually transferred to Kelowna for angiogram and had two stents put in, now recovering at home.

Like your story, this is an anecdote that means little in the overall picture, but this is real. We could ask the govt to do nothing and let the cases run, reveal it all to be no worse than a bad flu season. But that is what happened in Northern Italy 18 months ago, and none of us would want the reality of that.

The only reason we have the luxury of thinking it's all blown out of proportion is because the precautions have worked and we in BC haven't seen what the full **** blizzard looks like.
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pretty sad a year later that our medical system was ill prepared for a surge of covid cases.

and even after knowing for months now that there has been an increase in cases in the interior.
 
You can't just build some more ICU beds over the weekend. Hospitals are already the most complex buildings in the construction world, and ICU is several levels higher than a medical or surgical bed.

The hospitals run busy all the time, pandemic or not. If they didn't, there would be taxpayers howling at the wasted tax dollars. And rightly so, they cost obscene amounts of money. So does the province suspend non urgent surgeries again? They were criticized after the fact for doing that during the first wave when no one knew fully what to expect, and it took half a year to clear the backlog once surgeries resumed.

Funny that I find myself defending the actions of government. I'm a small business owner and employer, and I've never worked in the public sector. But I'll support government when they get it right. If you want to see it done wrong, may I direct you to Somalia? Or Venezuela, South Sudan, Syria, Libya, Yemen...
 
So in other words hospital are busy all the time and you may get transferred regardless of if we have covid or not.
 
Yes, to be sure such things have happened before COVID. But in this particular case my friend would have had an ICU bed if not for those people who figured they knew better and took a pass on vaccination. They wouldn't have been there at all if they'd had two simple injections. Freedom doesn't come into it, it's just simple self preservation.
 

B.C. sees big jump in vaccination bookings after announcing COVID-19 vaccine passport​


Aug 25, 2021
The B.C. government says it's seeing a massive increase in interest in the COVID-19 vaccine since announcing a new program to require proof of vaccination for a wide range of social and recreational activities.

Since Monday, the number of people registering for the vaccination program or booking appointments each day has jumped by as much as 201 per cent compared to a week earlier, according to a statement from the province. The biggest jumps, the government says, have been in people under the age of 40.

Monday is the date when officials announced that proof of vaccination would be required to do things like eating at a restaurant, seeing a movie in the theatre or taking part in a fitness class.

"I am pleased that people are heeding our call to roll up their sleeves to help stop the spread of COVID-19. But there's more work to do, and I encourage everyone to make the best choice to protect themselves, their loved ones and their community — get vaccinated," Health Minister Adrian Dix said in the statement.

The numbers provided by the province show that on Monday, 8,909 people registered for the vaccine program and 7,347 booked appointments, spikes of 175 per cent and 89 per cent, respectively, compared to the previous Monday.

Tuesday saw even bigger increases over the previous week, with 10,175 new registrations and 9,486 bookings, jumping 201 per cent and 124 per cent, respectively.

The province says in the last two days alone, 12,904 people under the age of 40 have registered and 11,301 have booked appointments, more than doubling last week's numbers.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/brit...cine-passport-1.6153677?__vfz=medium=sharebar
 

Alberta, Saskatchewan not planning to follow B.C. and Manitoba on broad mask mandates​

August 25, 2021

Alberta reported more than 1,000 new cases of COVID-19 on Wednesday but it along with Saskatchewan, is not planning to follow broad mask mandates announced this week by neighbouring western provinces.

Alberta Premier Jason Kenney and Health Minister Tyler Shandro have both said that vaccinations are the best, most effective way to get the province through the pandemic. Neither has addressed the surging numbers.

Both Alberta and Saskatchewan continue to urge residents who have not done so to get the two-dose protection.

Manitoba and British Columbia are reintroducing mask requirements in indoor public spaces to try to arrest a rise in case numbers.

Alberta reported 1,076 new cases Wednesday and had close to 8,500 active infections. Some 284 people were in hospital with COVID-19, 59 of them in intensive care. It’s the highest daily case count since mid-May.

In Edmonton, Alberta Health spokesman Steve Buick said there is no plan to pursue a rule on face coverings. He added: “Our current mask rules remain in place, including mandatory masks in health-care settings and public transit.”

In Saskatchewan, where there were 1,500 active cases and 108 people hospitalized, Health Minister Paul Merriman said provinces have the prerogative to choose what they want to do.

“But we feel right now that the vaccine is the best path through this,” he told reporters in Regina.

“Public health measures are a stopgap,” added Merriman, who stressed that the onus is on individuals to get vaccinated to protect themselves and to get the province through the pandemic.

Asked about mandatory vaccinations, he said: “You’re infringing on people’s personal rights if you’re mandating things.”

There is now a patchwork of masking and mandatory vaccination rules in both provinces for businesses, schools and events.

In Edmonton, fans over age 12 attending Oilers hockey games this fall will have to show proof of vaccination while, at this point, those attending Elks football games do not.

The Alberta Medical Association this week openly urged the province to institute mandatory vaccinations for health-care workers. Dr. Paul Boucher, the association’s president, said that while he understands the issue is polarizing, vaccination “remains our most effective tool to keep our vulnerable patients safe.”

David Shepherd, health critic for Alberta‘s NDP Opposition, said not following the lead of B.C. and Manitoba is yet another example of failed leadership from a United Conservative government that is seeking to off-load controversial or unpopular decisions.

“This government is devolving the responsibility to make important public health decisions onto school boards, onto businesses, onto individuals and, indeed, causing them to have to deal with the tension, the blowback, (and) the issues that come with having to enforce this,” said Shepherd.

The rule changes in other provinces come as they address a rise in COVID cases, tied mainly to the more transmissible Delta variant.

Along with requiring masks again, including in schools, Manitoba is mandating vaccinations for front-line provincial employees who work with vulnerable populations. Workers affected included doctors, nurses, teachers and prison guards. Manitoba is still seeing a low number of new cases, but Premier Brian Pallister said precautions must be taken to prevent a spike.

B.C.’s mask rule extends to malls, grocery stores and public transit, as well as to students in Grade 4 and higher.

Also on Wednesday, the Northwest Territories, which is experiencing it’s worst outbreak of the pandemic, reinstated its mask mandate.

https://www.cheknews.ca/alberta-sas...c-and-manitoba-on-broad-mask-mandates-873414/
 
The 6% refuse are getting organized here on the Island details to follow.

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Our friends in Alberta may soon have a "Proof of Vaccine" card coming but don't leave it to late. Best to setup your account as it seems it takes weeks to update.


Alberta Health says online vaccine record improvements coming​

Government says printable paper cards will be available soon​

Alberta Health says it is working to improve access to digital immunization records — something some Albertans have been struggling with in recent weeks.

Most Albertans are able to access health information through the province's online MyHealth Records tool, but three vaccinated adults told CBC News on Wednesday that they have encountered problems with the system.

Lisa King, who lives just outside of Wainwright, said she can see her immunizations on MyHealth Records, but not those of her sons, who are 12 and 13 years old.

More:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmo...-vaccine-record-improvements-coming-1.6153809

Q&A from the Alberta website of their not a vaccine passport:
https://www.alberta.ca/proof-of-vaccination-faq.aspx
 
dradons said:
Another example of people being downright delusional is that as long as you are healthy you will be fine. That simply is not the case. You really want to take those odds when there is a working vaccine that, you know, prevents death.... It really is pure insanity.
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Kinda true but i really feel for the widow with all the kids
 
Aces said:
Kinda true but i really feel for the widow with all the kids
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Yah, feel so much for the families. It really is sad. Still is a life and the man I am sure had kids and others that loved him.
 
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