Reply With Quote200 lb power pro w/snubber and the correct knots......cant beat it imoa
In the very early days there was a Kevlar product that proved to be very abrasive-it quickly disappeared and there's been nothing on the market since (except for high end sailing ropes IIRC)Originally Posted by Birdsnest
200 lb power pro w/snubber and the correct knots......cant beat it imoa
OK one more post on this topic LOL.
I switched one side only to braid to try it out last year and all went well until last month when I had two unexplained snap offs on the braid that was only 15 months old. (Full details on the Sooke reports thread)
It appears you can ONLY use braid on brand new pulleys/downriggers. Mine had wire for years and were cut/abraided and they simply did a number on the braid over time so that the 175lb braid snapped like cotton 20 feet above the ball, twice on same day!!
So since I cannot afford new downriggers I am going back to wire.
BTW I believe I get less blowback with wire than braid. This seems to be reasonable physics since wire is denser and heavier than braid (in fact 100 feet of wire must weigh three or four times what the same length of braid does.) The diameter difference is not enough to offset that IMHO.
Last edited by Englishman; 05-17-2012 at 06:50 PM.
OK one more post on this topic LOL.
I switched one side only to braid to try it out last year and all went well until last month when I had two unexplained snap offs on the braid that was only 15 months old. (Full details on the Sooke reports thread)
It appears you can ONLY use braid on brand new pulleys/downriggers. Mine had wire for years and were cut/abraided and they simply did a number on the braid over time so that the 175lb braid snapped like cotton 20 feet above the ball, twice on same day!!
So since I cannot afford new downriggers I am going back to wire.
BTW I believe I get less blowback with wire than braid. This seems to be reasonable physics since wire is denser and heavier than braid (in fact 100 feet of wire must weigh three or four times what the same length of braid does.) The diameter difference is not enough to offset that IMHO.
I'm not so sure it was your pulleys that were the problem.
the braid would track in the same grooves as the wire.
believe me, i would not advocate the product if i did not believe in it.
there is really no comparison, the braid is so much better.
Are you using the simple palomar knot ?
p.s. are you using Powerpro ?
RSC, I was not using Powerpro, but I cannot remember the make of the product.
I used the Palomar knot, but the breaks did not occur at the knot. They were way above that. Which makes sense since the lower few feet of the braid never went near the pulleys.
I am sure braid is a great product....IF you have decent new pulleys!!
x2Man, no way i would ever go back to wire.
200lb power pro is awesome stuff, no more rusted,frayed wire
to break off, jab you and spring off the spool into a friggin' birds nest.
I can't say enough good things about it.
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Instead of new downriggers, how about new pulleys, or even cheaper, just use 100 grit sand paper to remove the nicks in the pulley and especially the pulley housing.So since I cannot afford new downriggers I am going back to wire.
F D
ps - I still use wire, and a ProTroll Black Box.
I generally cut off 8-10 ft after a bunch of bottom draggin, good way to save your balls.
I could, but since I have totally lost confidence in braid (and only went on one side anyway) I shan't bother. And the double whammy is the wire side outfished the braid side more than 3 to 1 for winter chinooks. I am going back to wire for sure.
(I have black box too but have never figured out how to make any difference, despite some experiments....so it stays off most of the time).
I even do it on my spinning rods with braid.
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