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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave S View Post
    Anyone know where I can get some stickers to show opposition to the pipeline?
    You might be able to get a few printed at a local sign shop. Name:  Anti Enbridge.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave S View Post
    Anyone know where I can get some stickers to show opposition to the pipeline?
    Dave,

    You can obtain decals to stick on loonies from these guys:

    http://dogwoodinitiative.org/no-tankers

    Don't know where you can get bumper stickers and such from yet, but I will be looking for those too. Meanwhile, keeping the letter writing pressure on all local MLA's and MP's plus all the local and province wide papers probably reaches a wider audience.

    For communication purposes, you can also try sending the links I posted above to everyone on your e-mail contact list.........

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    Here is another NEW report Robyn Allan just recently put out a few days ago - http://www.robynallan.com/wp-content...May-6-2012.pdf

    Excerpt from her website:

    British Columbians have been told the Enbridge Northern Gateway Pipeline and Marine Terminal represents 220 tankers a year when it could be upwards of 340 per year.

    We’ve been told that twinning Kinder Morgan’s Trans Mountain means a tanker a day in Vancouver’s inner harbour, when its possible the project could represent upwards of 475 oil tankers a year.

    Taken together the two projects could expose BC to 2 million barrels of crude oil a day by land, and around 800 tankers a year transiting vulnerable coastal waters.

    I have prepared an 11 page report–Proposed Pipelines and Tanker Spill Risk for BC–explaining how this could occur if Northern Gateway and Kinder Morgan proceed.

    If, after reviewing the report, you are concerned about the volume of crude oil and condensate planned for transport across BC’s and First Nations’ land, freshwater streams and coastal waters, please let Premier Clark know. Please ask her to take back BC’s sovereign right to conduct a meaningful environmental assessment and have the final decision making power as to whether Northern Gateway proceeds or not.

    Premier Clark’s email address is premier@gov.bc.ca

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    This is why I believe in having the right information, if they are going to distort information they will lose in the long run, I do not support the pipeliner's quest in shipping oil through sensitive areas but also do not support mis information. When governments and corporations try to B/S me they lost any chance of credibility with me.
    I have voiced my concerns and have raised a few eyebrows in this area, but what is being done is damaging very sensitive ares that cannot be fixed in our lifetimes.

    Quote Originally Posted by tincan View Post
    Here is another NEW report Robyn Allan just recently put out a few days ago - http://www.robynallan.com/wp-content...May-6-2012.pdf

    Excerpt from her website:

    British Columbians have been told the Enbridge Northern Gateway Pipeline and Marine Terminal represents 220 tankers a year when it could be upwards of 340 per year.

    We’ve been told that twinning Kinder Morgan’s Trans Mountain means a tanker a day in Vancouver’s inner harbour, when its possible the project could represent upwards of 475 oil tankers a year.

    Taken together the two projects could expose BC to 2 million barrels of crude oil a day by land, and around 800 tankers a year transiting vulnerable coastal waters.

    I have prepared an 11 page report–Proposed Pipelines and Tanker Spill Risk for BC–explaining how this could occur if Northern Gateway and Kinder Morgan proceed.

    If, after reviewing the report, you are concerned about the volume of crude oil and condensate planned for transport across BC’s and First Nations’ land, freshwater streams and coastal waters, please let Premier Clark know. Please ask her to take back BC’s sovereign right to conduct a meaningful environmental assessment and have the final decision making power as to whether Northern Gateway proceeds or not.

    Premier Clark’s email address is premier@gov.bc.ca
    I have been told my signature is too old, anybody have one I could use?

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    So with this pipeline has come an attack on NGO's that think this pipeline project stinks.
    The current government has even set aside 8 million dollars in this years budget to audit them.
    I think Harper is doing what ever he can to silence the opposition to this pipeline.
    However it has been noticed by another level of government, the senate.
    I have been following the debate and maybe we might get the truth behind all this.
    http://www.parl.gc.ca/Content/Sen/Ch...05-08-e.htm#44

    Some back ground behind this motion.
    http://www.parl.gc.ca/Content/Sen/Ch...04-05-e.htm#26

    Funny I thought those guy's just sat around and drank coffee all day.
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    Hmmm! The sober second thought. Exactly what the Senate was designed to do. Question is will they do what is right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Englishman View Post
    Dave,

    You can obtain decals to stick on loonies from these guys:

    http://dogwoodinitiative.org/no-tankers

    Don't know where you can get bumper stickers and such from yet, but I will be looking for those too. Meanwhile, keeping the letter writing pressure on all local MLA's and MP's plus all the local and province wide papers probably reaches a wider audience.

    For communication purposes, you can also try sending the links I posted above to everyone on your e-mail contact list.........
    Hey English, thanks for the link. I picked up a package from Dogwood yesterday and I am slapping a sticker on every loonie that hits my pocket. I still am searching for a larger sticker that my dad can place on his bike, helmet, jersey and be seen easily. Might look at getting some printed on my own.

    Cheers,
    Dave
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    Just ordered 525 Looney stickers from Dogwood. The kids are looking forward to sticking them all to the loonies!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave S View Post
    I still am searching for a larger sticker that my dad can place on his bike, helmet, jersey and be seen easily. Might look at getting some printed on my own.

    Cheers,
    Dave
    Guess I should explain that my pops always does The Ride to Conquer Cancer but it is now the Enbridge Ride to Conquer Cancer. I have agreed to support him and his cause if he is willing to use his ride to show his opinion on Enbridge and the pipeline. He is also going to present a letter to the president of BC Cancer Foundation, who he happens to know, in hopes that BCCF reconsiders the future relationship with Enbridge.
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    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/10/op...mate.html?_r=1

    and another, lots of discussion today:

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0512/76130.html


    unfortunately, our leadership does not have the guts to take the correct stance. enter romney, game, set, match, will make harper look like a bush leager!
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