USA 2016 Election - the countdown is on...
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Well Bill was too busy getting his own missile to explode.
Wasn't worried about Hillary and the code keys profisher....
the code key for that nuke was: M-o-n-i-k-a
I shrug my shoulders at this thing with people worried about Trump and nukes.
She is the only one out of the two talking about engaging Russia if they don't play by her rules.
She says Cyber attacks will be classed as an act of war. Cyber attacks are a daily occurance.
He seems willing to talk. So who is more dangerous with those codes??
She is the only one out of the two talking about engaging Russia if they don't play by her rules.
She says Cyber attacks will be classed as an act of war. Cyber attacks are a daily occurance.
He seems willing to talk. So who is more dangerous with those codes??
Lol! Uncanny.
GLG
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Oh dear.....
Are we being influenced by the politics of fear? There was a good CBC Radio program last year that breaks it down and as someone that remembers the Cuban Missile Crisis there is a difference between real fear and fear used to gain political control like the Right is so fond of using to gain advantage.
Link to the cbc radio program
http://www.cbc.ca/radio/thesundayed...ania-1.3018334/the-politics-of-fear-1.3018452
That's not a tactic used only by republicans.
You didn't address my point. Who out of the two seems more likely to start a dialogue with Russia? It's not a fear campaign saying that tensions are steadily increasing under Obama. It's fact.
Who out of the two has talked about initiating conflict?
You didn't address my point. Who out of the two seems more likely to start a dialogue with Russia? It's not a fear campaign saying that tensions are steadily increasing under Obama. It's fact.
Who out of the two has talked about initiating conflict?
ziggy
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In the interest in fairness in labeling, perhaps you also remember the War Measures Act. lol
Oh dear.....
Are we being influenced by the politics of fear? There was a good CBC Radio program last year that breaks it down and as someone that remembers the Cuban Missile Crisis there is a difference between real fear and fear used to gain political control like the Right is so fond of using to gain advantage.
Link to the cbc radio program
http://www.cbc.ca/radio/thesundayed...ania-1.3018334/the-politics-of-fear-1.3018452
GLG
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Yes your right it is used not just by the Republicans but also by the Tea Party and the Alt-Right. That's part of what the "southern strategy" is all about. Until we look behind the curtain we will be motivated by fear and that clouds judgement. It's not that I don't think we have problems in the world but to think we can just bomb the he11 out of them (like Trump suggests for ISIS) is giving a simple answer to a complex problem. By your own admission you are worried about world war 3 and as being older then you, I think your fears are misplaced. I would be more worried about race relations in the US if Trump was the president. I don't want to watch that one unfold again. Does Trump have impulse control problems...... I think so as his twitter wars at 3am and him going off script getting in to trouble with things he says are legendary. He has proven time and time again that he is not the type that would have a steady hand at the tiller. He is playing checkers when the game is chess.
I'm not trying to change your mind. You will see what you want to see.
The fact that you won't even admit to the Hillary Campaign using dirty tricks is telling.
You also won't address my point about who is more likely to start conflict because it goes against your narrative.
Not sure how you know your older than me, but that very well may be true. No offense to the older generation but they are notoriously bad at reading between the lines with mainstream media. The younger generation tends to be more adept at doing research, hence the large backlash against Hillary with younger people. They know what she is about.
His dirty laundry is out for allot see, she has more skeletons coming out of the closet every day.
In a way we are kind of the same, except we have chosen different sides. Hopefully you just despise Trump enough you would support Hillary. Because no one in their right mind would think she deserves the job anymore than he does.
The fact that you won't even admit to the Hillary Campaign using dirty tricks is telling.
You also won't address my point about who is more likely to start conflict because it goes against your narrative.
Not sure how you know your older than me, but that very well may be true. No offense to the older generation but they are notoriously bad at reading between the lines with mainstream media. The younger generation tends to be more adept at doing research, hence the large backlash against Hillary with younger people. They know what she is about.
His dirty laundry is out for allot see, she has more skeletons coming out of the closet every day.
In a way we are kind of the same, except we have chosen different sides. Hopefully you just despise Trump enough you would support Hillary. Because no one in their right mind would think she deserves the job anymore than he does.
sly_karma
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Trump is a charismatic narcissist. These types come along occasionally and sometimes acquire great power. They have an uncanny understanding of how to use people's fears to manipulate them. Many otherwise intelligent people have been taken in by the narcissist and have said and done things things they would never normally consider appropriate. The followers excuse their many flaws and soak up the balm being soothed upon their aching souls. According to wikipedia, characteristics of narcissists:
"Self confidence: Grandiose.
"Desire for power, wealth and admiration: pursues power at all costs; lacks normal inhibitions in its pursuit.
"Relationships: concerns limited to expressing socially appropriate response when convenient; devalues and exploits others without remorse.
"Ability to follow a consistent path: Lacks values; easily bored; often changes course."
Lots of examples to show this describes Trump quite well. He has certainly pursued this election campaign without any of the normal scruples, has mocked and devalued disabled people, Mexicans, and former beauty queens to name but a few. And his flip flops and reversals of opinion and on policy matters are too numerous to list here.
Mr Trump shares characteristics with an elite group:
"Self confidence: Grandiose.
"Desire for power, wealth and admiration: pursues power at all costs; lacks normal inhibitions in its pursuit.
"Relationships: concerns limited to expressing socially appropriate response when convenient; devalues and exploits others without remorse.
"Ability to follow a consistent path: Lacks values; easily bored; often changes course."
Lots of examples to show this describes Trump quite well. He has certainly pursued this election campaign without any of the normal scruples, has mocked and devalued disabled people, Mexicans, and former beauty queens to name but a few. And his flip flops and reversals of opinion and on policy matters are too numerous to list here.
Mr Trump shares characteristics with an elite group:
- Benito Mussolini
- Mao Zedong
- Pol Pot
- Adolf Hitler
- Charles Manson
- Jim Jones
- Kim Il Sung
- Idi Amin
- Muammar Qaddafi
- Josef Stalin
- Napoleon Bonaparte
- Lance Armstrong
- Steve Jobs
- Winston Churchill
This latest e-mail thing is a revelation - gee, Weiner's computer had emails traced to the Clinton campaign.
Weiner's wife/ex-wife works for the Clinton campaign.
If you think this is unusual or news-worthy you are either a TOTAL MORON or your head is so far up it will take 20 years of being dragged through the Seymour Narrows to wash all the crap outta your ears.
Weiner's wife/ex-wife works for the Clinton campaign.
If you think this is unusual or news-worthy you are either a TOTAL MORON or your head is so far up it will take 20 years of being dragged through the Seymour Narrows to wash all the crap outta your ears.
She cited a "head injury" was the reason she answered with "I can't recall" in regards to the FBI questions. It was the answer to the vast majority of questions. Typical gangster answer.
When the FBI investigate someone, they usually get the warrant, turn up and seize. With Hillary, they got the warrant then "asked" for the information. Only for her to order 30,000+ emails deleted, in the following days, sighting they were private. LOL!
This is news worthy because she didn't answer their questions, and they didn't have evidence. Until now, because Weiner didn't delete the emails on his side, so now they seem to have found the smoking gun.
Funny thing is, the NSA were the ones that found his emails, the irony in that is quite funny.
Now we might see if there is an answer to the questions she conveniently couldn't remember.
When the FBI investigate someone, they usually get the warrant, turn up and seize. With Hillary, they got the warrant then "asked" for the information. Only for her to order 30,000+ emails deleted, in the following days, sighting they were private. LOL!
This is news worthy because she didn't answer their questions, and they didn't have evidence. Until now, because Weiner didn't delete the emails on his side, so now they seem to have found the smoking gun.
Funny thing is, the NSA were the ones that found his emails, the irony in that is quite funny.
Now we might see if there is an answer to the questions she conveniently couldn't remember.
GLG
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You and I don't have a vote in this election but you and I should be aware of the implications that this election has for Canada. My hope is that you will educate yourself on the code words and tactics that we will see depending on the outcome of the PC leadership convention. My political leanings are on the right, friends say I'm a red Tory but I have seen the Tory party go off the rails to the right and that's not something I can support. So I would put myself down as an independent if there is such a thing here in Canada.
Sorry .... if you can't read between my lines (must be a young guy thing
).... let me make it clear. I think Clinton is a better choice to keep me and the rest of the world safe. I also see that Bernie and Elizabeth Warren as being influential in a Clinton administration.I see Trump for what he is.... a con artist and a closet racist. Here is a video from someone that wrote the book on him. There are many others that tracked him for years and they all say the same thing.
Educate me. What code words and tactics should I be looking for?
Btw. Age really has no relevance here. Because if your in the age group I'm assuming you are, then your way of thinking have been a big contributer to getting us all in this mess. And here you are, supporting more more more of the same. Have a think about that.
Btw. Age really has no relevance here. Because if your in the age group I'm assuming you are, then your way of thinking have been a big contributer to getting us all in this mess. And here you are, supporting more more more of the same. Have a think about that.
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Bernie Sanders was screwed by the DNC, Warren rails against the corrupt nature of big finance.
Bernie was a much more suitable candidate than Clinton, but it seems to have been decided from the outset who the nominee was going to be. How's that for democracy in the Democratic corner lead by Hillary.
Warren wanted nothing to do with standing beside Clinton, she has made remarks in the past about her dubious relationship with Wall St.
You honestly thing either of them will be able to steer her in any direction?! Don't be so naive.
Bernie was a much more suitable candidate than Clinton, but it seems to have been decided from the outset who the nominee was going to be. How's that for democracy in the Democratic corner lead by Hillary.
Warren wanted nothing to do with standing beside Clinton, she has made remarks in the past about her dubious relationship with Wall St.
You honestly thing either of them will be able to steer her in any direction?! Don't be so naive.
sly_karma
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Both parties got hijacked by outsiders during the primaries, only Sanders was unsuccessful in making it as the nominee. Clearly the party system is in big trouble down south, and a big part of it is funding. Various inititives intended to increase transparency by reducing donation size have drastically cut revenues for the big parties. That means candidates need to raise most of their campaign money directly, and therefore the party bosses can no longer pull rowdy candidates into line merely by threatening to reduce or withhold funding.
Attacking Hillary for having a relationship with Wall St is meaningless to the point where the arrows fall harmlessly to the ground. I'd have more questions if she hadn't developed ties there in over 30 years in public life. Anyone that rises to executive power in any country must have a working relationship with big business and the banking sector, those are major employers and investors. They are stakeholders just like the rest of us. Funnier yet is when people accuse her of being a socialist as well as being too close to Wall Street.
Attacking Hillary for having a relationship with Wall St is meaningless to the point where the arrows fall harmlessly to the ground. I'd have more questions if she hadn't developed ties there in over 30 years in public life. Anyone that rises to executive power in any country must have a working relationship with big business and the banking sector, those are major employers and investors. They are stakeholders just like the rest of us. Funnier yet is when people accuse her of being a socialist as well as being too close to Wall Street.
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