Sports Fishermen told to leave native land.

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Members of the Gitxsan First Nation blockade a CN railroad track in Kitwanga, B.C., between Terrace and Smithers, on Wednesday, Jan. 16, 2013. The Gitxsan were supporting a nationwide day of Idle No Protests as well as local issues such as the Enbridge Northern Gateway Pipeline.
Photograph by: Robin Rowland , THE CANADIAN PRESS
VANCOUVER - Two British Columbia First Nations are wasting no time in enforcing their claim on traditional lands in light of a landmark Supreme Court of Canada decision recognizing aboriginal land title.

The hereditary chiefs of the Gitxsan First Nations served notice Thursday to CN Rail, logging companies and sport fishermen to leave their territory along the Skeena River in a dispute with the federal and provincial governments over treaty talks.

And the Gitxaala First Nation, with territory on islands off the North Coast, announced plan to file a lawsuit in the Federal Court of Appeal on Friday challenging Ottawa's recent approval of the Northern Gateway pipeline from Alberta.

Both cite the recent high court ruling in Tsilhqot'in v. British Columbia.

"It's given us a bit of confidence that things are going to be going our way," said Clarence Innis, acting chief of the Gitxaala. "I think that is a very strong message to Canada ... not to ignore First Nations any more but to consult."

The court application argues that the federal Conservative cabinet did not consider the Gitxaala's aboriginal rights and title in approving the oil pipeline proposed by Calgary-based Enbridge (TSX:ENB). The Tsilhqot'in decision bolsters their case, said Rosanne Kyle, the band's lawyer.

"The Northern Gateway project is going to be the first case where the implications of Tsilhqot'in will crystallize," she said. "The court has provided a lot more clarity for everyone involved, including government, as to what needs to be done to achieve reconciliation."

About 250 kilometres northeast of the Gitxaala, the Gitxsan have given companies operating on their land until Aug. 4 to leave the 33,000 square kilometres of their territory along the Skeena River.

Because the band was not consulted by government, the companies the governments licensed are trespassing, said Gwaans Bev Clifton Percival, chief negotiator for the Gitxsan.

"The Supreme Court has come down with yet another ruling that advances our right and title," she said. "They (government) have to abide by the laws. We're prepared to negotiate."

It was Gitxsan hereditary chief Delgamuukw whose 1997 legal victory recognized aboriginal title to unceded land in B.C.

The band has tried since then to negotiate with the Crown but hasn't made any progress, Clifton Percival said. A short-term forestry agreement with the province expired in 2011 and there's been none since, she said.

Then in 2012, lands awarded to the Gitxsan in an earlier court ruling were included in a treaty agreement-in-principle with the neighbouring Kitsumkalum and Kitselas nations, she said.

"B.C. has been silent yet they want to have all this activity on Gitxsan land, so we need to get their attention and this is the only way the chiefs saw forward," Clifton Percival said.

CN Rail did not return a call for comment.

B.C. Minister of Aboriginal Relations and Reconciliation John Rustad was travelling and unavailable for an interview. In an emailed statement, Rustad said the Liberal government takes the courts' direction on consultation very seriously.

In the Gitxsan case, the ministry has been working with the communities to try and resolve the territorial dispute, he said.

"We are continuing to work in partnership with Kitselas, Kitsumkalum and other B.C. First Nations to secure long-term treaties that provide economic benefit, security and certainty on the land for all British Columbians," Rustad said.

The high court decision is the first time aboriginal title has been recognized in Canada. The court recognized the Tsilhqot'in's title to over 1,700 square kilometres of land in the B.C. Interior.

A report released Thursday by the Fraser Institute warned that the ruling may encourage more lawsuits.

It's a decision that will be felt throughout Canada, said the analysis by the right-leaning think tank based in Vancouver.

In the short term, the ruling will impact treaty negotiations and development in the westernmost province, where there are few historic or modern treaties and where 200 plus aboriginal bands have overlapping claims accounting for every square metre of land and then some.

"Over the longer term, it will result in an environment of uncertainty for all current and future economic development projects that may end up being recognized as on aboriginal title lands," wrote analyst Ravina Bains.



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WTF did the sport fishermen do to warrant getting kicked out? Good way to build alliances and support for your cause!!!
 
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Didn't take em long,did it? This thing is going to turn into all of our worst nightmares!

It will really come down to votes....in the long run.
we have some lame liberal type supreme court justices that ar out of touch with reality.
Call you MP today , let him know where you stand and how you will vote.
Only with HUGE public rebellion will they listen.
So many complain , but not many phone or write a letter.
If you are opposed to what is happening with our supreme court and BS laws... be heard and call or write.
 
we have some lame liberal type supreme court justices that ar out of touch with reality.
Call you MP today , let him know where you stand and how you will vote.
6 out 8 SC justices were put there by Harper.....
It's called the rule of law and not open to what you think is fair or not.
Best to find ways to work with FN then to fight with them because you are going to lose.
End of story...
 
The Skeena River is renowned as one of the top sports-fishing destinations in the world.

Anglers go there spring, summer and fall in pursuit of trophy salmon and steelhead, spending $5,000 a week if they use guides. They fill up the lodges, resorts, motels, bars and restaurants in small towns all along the great river when the salmon are running.

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But maybe not so much this year – because the great Skeena River is caught up in a court case and a question of aboriginal rights.

In a startling announcement last week, the Gitxsan Treaty Society in Hazelton declared that sports fishermen are being “evicted” from the area, along with the forest industry and CN Rail.

“This eviction notice affects all sports fisheries on the Skeena River and tributaries, all forest activities … and CN Rail,” declared the Gitxsan. “All are expected to vacate and cease activities on Aug. 4, 2014 until both Crowns have obtained the required consent of the Gitxsan Hereditary Chiefs.”

The notice flows from the recent Supreme Court of Canada decision that underscored the aboriginal title and rights of the Tsilhqot’in. And it gives credence to those alarmists who said that landmark ruling was going to create chaos in B.C.

First Nations blocking resource companies from mining or logging is one thing. But in announcing they are evicting sports anglers – presumably with hunters, campers and hikers soon to follow – the Gitxsan have expanded their fight to include, well, just about everybody.

The latest pronouncement is not going to sit well with the 300,000 British Columbians who buy sports fishing licences each year. And it’s certainly going to raise concerns with the 5,000 people who make their livings from catering to the sports fishing crowd, which generates about $546-million in direct economic impacts yearly in B.C.

Al Martin, of the B.C. Wildlife Federation, said the Tsilhqot’in case is a game changer and the Gitxsan declaration is unsettling, but he advises fishermen and hunters not to panic.

“Well, the landscape has just changed from being Crown land and private land, to Crown land, aboriginal title and private title so I think that hunting and fishing will change across the province. I guess the question is: How will it change?” he said. “Hopefully this [Supreme Court ruling] will give us an opportunity to ensure the changes are positive in terms of the sustainability of wildlife and still provide opportunities for First Nations and non-First Nations alike to participate in hunting and fishing.”

Mr. Martin and other officials from the B.C. Wildlife Federation met recently with three top ministers to discuss the Tsilhqot’in case and its implications for hunting and fishing.

But he didn’t get a lot of answers.

“Clearly, government is trying to get their mind around that [court decision],” he said. “It’s early days. It’s clear there is a lot of work to be done to figure out the implications of this as you translate from the judgment level of the Supreme Court to how things will actually work across landscapes and watersheds and how it will affect the use of resources, including fish and wildlife.”

Mr. Martin said the government is still trying to find its way on this complicated file.

“I think it’s going to be a busy summer, for sure,” he said of the work that needs to be done in the wake of the ruling.

Gwaans, whose English name is Bev Clifton Percival, head negotiator for the Gitxsan, said sports fishermen were included in the eviction notice because “it’s a revenue maker for the province,” and because the Gitxsan Treaty Society has “never [given] consent for the sports fishermen on the Skeena and its tributaries.”

Probably no First Nation anywhere in the province has ever “given consent” for fishing or hunting. But non-native people have been fishing and hunting since they first arrived and they are not going to lightly accept the idea that they can’t catch a salmon or shoot a deer without getting approval from First Nations.

But that is where the Gitxsan apparently think this is headed.

For the provincial government, the inclusion of sports fishermen in a debate which until now has centred on specific industrial activities means that the political stakes have been raised dramatically. Industry doesn’t vote – but fishermen do. And they will want this mess sorted out soon.

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I grew up in Hazelton and some of the most militant natives in the country live there, they used to block the school bus in their blockades. Kinda funny they said they've never given permission yet run their own tourism business' and make wages but no one else can. It reminds me of the Nettie Wild documentary Blockade from years ago, I used to sell logging supplies to one of the most vocal opponents of the forest industry at the time. He'd cut checks for hoses, oil and chokers from a company he was calling a "landscape research" outfit, spouting off for cameras one day then doing it himself the next. There was a few spots on the Kispiox where you were guaranteed to get hit up for a fee to fish also. I remember getting asked for the fee by 4 different guys one day, none of which had any authority to do so. It always boils down to money, how much will this cost tax payers I wonder? Tourism is practically the only industry left there, I wonder how long until it's ruined. If you wanna shut down the revenue stream in the area their funding should trend with it accordingly.
 
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i heard a lawyer say they have rights on the land not the water.
So they cannot do anything to Drift boats.
 
... First Nations blocking resource companies from mining or logging is one thing. But in announcing they are evicting sports anglers – presumably with hunters, campers and hikers soon to follow – the Gitxsan have expanded their fight to include, well, just about everybody...

... Probably no First Nation anywhere in the province has ever “given consent” for fishing or hunting. But non-native people have been fishing and hunting since they first arrived and they are not going to lightly accept the idea that they can’t catch a salmon or shoot a deer without getting approval from First Nations.

But that is where the Gitxsan apparently think this is headed.

ROYAL Mess! And with many other bands lining up to cash in on this ruling, it's about to get worse, Much Worse IMHO.
The landscape for recreational users is changing, and there is a LOT of Discontent being expressed on pretty well all BC outdoors related forums.

Thankfully our moose draw is not within this area. We must pass by close enough however, that we are now considering what options might be available to us to avoid confrontation...

Going to be one Damn HOT Summer, and fall, and as far into the future as one cares to look...
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And I find NOTHING to cheer about in this scenario...
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i heard a lawyer say they have rights on the land not the water.
So they cannot do anything to Drift boats.

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Oh yes they can.

Drift boats and jet boats (guided or D.I.Y) have to put in and take out. The Band has already posted all the meat and potatoe steelhead water on the Kispiox which happens to include the prime put-in spots and take-out spots for drifters. Precedent has already been set (for two years now with full-time patrols to make sure the fees get paid) They also patrol the Skeena below the mouth of the K and beat up sporties for daily fees on both sides of that river.

Although this was an inside-job by one of the Kispiox guides to keep the non-guided guys off "their water", we now have the Law of Unintended Consequences kicking in

Now the Bands smell money---they've already seen that if they organize and patrol, they can milk the sports industry. It was just a short hop for the Hazelton Band to go from posting the lower Kispiox in deference to the guides to posting the Skeena

I'd like to think this is just an Enbridge play to get Harper's attention but if the jam sandwich gets stuck to the ceiling in the debate, all bets are off.

A pissing match with the Bands is not what Northern BC needs right now --- they need tourist dollars and lots of 'em
 
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This was going to happen sooner or later, only a matter of time before the Supreme Court agreed. Unfortunately there will be conflict and confusion triggered by this that will sour many of us on what is at its essence a just ruling that is long overdue. It's going to get worse before it gets better.
 
watch with open eyes. Many folks still believe the tribes are all about conservation, nothing could be further from the truth down this way. what you are seeing start is right out of the 'salmon wars' that happened in WA. you are also most likely to see the tribes setting up their own business model that includes raping the resources to their advantage while pretending to be the protectors. while the white man may have killed the last buffalo, I do believe the last salmon will be killed by some native fisherman. designing and operating efficient businesses seems to be beyond the skills of these folks and they don't seem inclined to hire 'experts' to make things run smoothly and to their financial advantage.
 
Don't they first have to gain their aboriginal title through the courts, as the last tribe did, before they have the legal right to attempt such a thing?
 
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