Karma-Kazi
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highlights
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Well when you look at it this way it kind of ruins the fun
http://blog.peta.org/archives/2009/08/giant_carp_dies.php
http://blog.peta.org/archives/2009/08/giant_carp_dies.php
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cliffjumper
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Highlights, I think that is incontrovertable truth that catch & release angling, and the angling-out of of a fish' competitors is in fact a good thing. That fish was caught 60 times with only zero ill effects.. obviously, not dying to this point it grew to what was that?.. 60+ pounds!
What killed the fish was the milk of human kindness... Treating this bloated fish like a couch potato pet by some good samaritan ??PETA??-member?, feeding it nuts... Why not a pint as well?
Their (peta) airheaded perversion of obvious truths into the whining & snivelling of nervous chihuahuas yapping at the wind just makes me want to bend down & scratch their ears.. but, really, just to check if the wind's whistling through.
Cheers!
What killed the fish was the milk of human kindness... Treating this bloated fish like a couch potato pet by some good samaritan ??PETA??-member?, feeding it nuts... Why not a pint as well?
Their (peta) airheaded perversion of obvious truths into the whining & snivelling of nervous chihuahuas yapping at the wind just makes me want to bend down & scratch their ears.. but, really, just to check if the wind's whistling through.
Cheers!
highlights
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Thanks for bringing it back to somewhere in the middle!
Dragginbait
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Is carp fishing any good this time of year, like top water bass?
I know that some of you are fly fishing for these, but when you are using bait are you just using a standard bait hook that you would use when fishing power bait?
When these fish are bonked are you guys using them for garden fertilizer or are they good for anything else?
I know that some of you are fly fishing for these, but when you are using bait are you just using a standard bait hook that you would use when fishing power bait?
When these fish are bonked are you guys using them for garden fertilizer or are they good for anything else?
Seafever
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If you are Canadian you will probably use a carp for garden fertilizer..
If you are German or European....you will ecstatically rejoice when you catch one.....with visions of a fish-feast running through your head.
I thought Carp were bottom-feeders.......didn't know you could take them on a fly.
There are recipes for carpbait on the internet......they fish for them in Ontario quite a bit.
Usually the bait is left sitting on or near the bottom because carp like to "vacuum" up their food down there.
For carp the doughbaits would probably be a better choice than ,say,worms......as far as Iknow.
If you are German or European....you will ecstatically rejoice when you catch one.....with visions of a fish-feast running through your head.
I thought Carp were bottom-feeders.......didn't know you could take them on a fly.
There are recipes for carpbait on the internet......they fish for them in Ontario quite a bit.
Usually the bait is left sitting on or near the bottom because carp like to "vacuum" up their food down there.
For carp the doughbaits would probably be a better choice than ,say,worms......as far as Iknow.
Englishman
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Carp fishing is considered to be a specialist form of freshwater angling extremely popular in the U.K. There are hundreds of web sites over there explaining how to catch big carp (30lb +).
Here is just one of many
http://www.carp-uk.net/
Here is just one of many
http://www.carp-uk.net/
Dan
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Hey there, just joined...
I recently got back into fishing in the spring, I used to fish a lot with my dad as a kid.(I'm 36)
Been going for trout & bass(slow going !) and came across this thread about 2 weeks ago and decided to try it.
Spent 4 day trips around Elk lake fishing for bass and got nothing bigger than my hand...
After a week (4 day trips) I have caught 6 decent carp.(7 really but 1 snapped)
I did NOT expect this to work, but it did !
Quite the fight on light equipment with no net and fishing from shore.
Can take a good 5-7 minutes to land a big one.
I made videos for Youtube if anyone is interested.
I recently got back into fishing in the spring, I used to fish a lot with my dad as a kid.(I'm 36)
Been going for trout & bass(slow going !) and came across this thread about 2 weeks ago and decided to try it.
Spent 4 day trips around Elk lake fishing for bass and got nothing bigger than my hand...
After a week (4 day trips) I have caught 6 decent carp.(7 really but 1 snapped)
I did NOT expect this to work, but it did !
Quite the fight on light equipment with no net and fishing from shore.
Can take a good 5-7 minutes to land a big one.
I made videos for Youtube if anyone is interested.
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Englishman
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Great fish CobraDriver. Look to be 8-10lb or better. Carp may not be to the liking of the palate of the non-central-European but they are decent fun sporting fish. They do fight very well, since they are powerfull, and grow to enormous sizes in the right environment. The world record currently stands at 99lb!!
You can catch them on flies and BC Outdoors magazine has published articles on how to do that in the past.
However, did you catch these with bait on the bottom? Did you check out any of the U.K. carp fishing sites I mentioned in my previous posts?
You can catch them on flies and BC Outdoors magazine has published articles on how to do that in the past.
However, did you catch these with bait on the bottom? Did you check out any of the U.K. carp fishing sites I mentioned in my previous posts?
Dan
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Thanks !
Yeah I researched mainly on YouTube, vids from the UK but found it VERY complicated, VERY expensive(one guy had about 20 "products" to mix for chum/bait) and just plain unappealing to me, the chumming, the rigs/set ups, the eventual costs....not for me.
So I said heck with it ! and just went with what I know(which isn't much !) and what I have.
So with my $13 Walmart Zebco combo (rod/reel/line)[LOL!], #2 Matzuo octopus hooks, #3(?) split shots and some canned corn I gave it a shot.
From shore I cast out as far as I could, let it sink, set the drag to (very)near nothing, leave the line relativity loose and wait.
You really have to test your patience cause they swim around the line often and what you think is a bite is just a passerby moving your line around.
If you WAIT til the reel screams THEN you have a fish on, grab the rod and point the tip straight up and the line will go !
After the initial burst tighten the drag a smidge and take your time, really take your time.
Out of 4 trips I reeled in 7 and landed 6.
Here is a (silly)vid I made of my first attempt, in this vid I'm not sure exactly what I'm doing but I have later vids coming soon where I actually look like I almost know what I'm doing !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqRVF0t0lSc
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Englishman
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Yes, I know what you mean. Carp fishing has got very sophisticated and complicated in UK and Europe. Part of it is just marketing, so that you will have a better, more attractive bait than the other guy.
Part of it is the nature of fishing in Europe. The vast majority of waters are very small - a few acres max, and certainly much smaller than Elk Lake. They are also heavily fished, all catch and release, so the carp learn and become very hook shy.Hence the complicated hair and trigger rigs, with boilies and "pop-up" baits etc to fool the big carp. In some of the waters there may only be two dozen of the big fish (20lbs plus) which everybody targets, and so they are each caught and released several times a season. Even fish learn though and become shy, as I say.
Here is a vid close up of one of these complex hair rigs used to catch a 36lb fish in UK.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TwryekF80Y&feature=related
This one shows some cool underwater shots of a pop-up rig at work....note how the wary carp keep spitting the bait out again or ignoring it altogether.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31M1ZlBxpKY&feature=related
You don't need that level of sophistication here and you will do just fine here with corn, bread, or even paste baits flavoured with krill etc. Very few anglers target carp, so they will take most baits with conventional hook set ups fished on the bottom. In hot weather, it is fun to have them take a bread crust off the surface - seeing the bait go "away" into the mouth of a big carp is a quite exciting!
Liked your video with the silhouette look. Great effort for first time carping!!
P.S. re the one that snapped off. You gotta' get yourself a landing net.!!!...LOL
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Dan
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Yes, I know what you mean. Carp fishing has got very sophisticated and complicated in UK and Europe. Part of it is just marketing, so that you will have a better, more attractive bait than the other guy.
Hence the complicated hair and trigger rigs, with boilies and "pop-up" baits etc to fool the big carp. In some of the waters there may only be two dozen of the big fish (20lbs plus) which everybody targets, and so they are each caught and released several times a season. Even fish learn though and become shy, as I say.
Here is a vid close up of one of these complex hair rigs used to catch a 36lb fish in UK.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TwryekF80Y&feature=related
This one shows some cool underwater shots of a pop-up rig at work....note how the wary carp keep spitting the bait out again or ignoring it altogether.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31M1ZlBxpKY&feature=related
You don't need that level of sophistication here and you will do just fine here with corn, bread, or even paste baits flavoured with krill etc. Very few anglers target carp, so they will take most baits with conventional hook set ups fished on the bottom. In hot weather, it is fun to have them take a bread crust off the surface - seeing the bait go "away" into the mouth of a big carp is a quite exciting!
Liked your video with the silhouette look. Great effort for first time carping!!
P.S. re the one that snapped off. You gotta' get yourself a landing net.!!!...LOL
Ah, makes sense that they get shy to bait, lots of spitting in that 1 vid !
Thanks for checking out my vid, more coming soon !
Caught a little guy this morning (pic below) but I am done with Elk Lake on Sundays, too much BS & aggravation from dog owners that do not control their dogs or follow park rules...even had a fellow fisherman cast on top of my bait after very politely explaining that if he fishes right beside me he will get tangled in my line the moment I have a fish on.
Nice.
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Nice video. I don't know how big carp get in Elk Lake, but if you ever hook a 20lb 'der, don't try reeling the fish in to within 3 foot of the rod top!! LOL
sammyslabber
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The Carp, Perch and American Bullfrog were introduced by some idiots,the same goes for the Smallmouth bass but mind you that was in the early 1900's. Actually most of us are in favor of the Bass. Rumor has it the Perch were introduced as feed for the Blackwater rainbow trout, the Bullfrogs were a food experiment gone wrongNice video. I don't know how big carp get in Elk Lake, but if you ever hook a 20lb 'der, don't try reeling the fish in to within 3 foot of the rod top!! LOL
http://www.geog.ubc.ca/biodiversity/efauna/AlienSpeciesinBritishColumbiaHistoricalRecords.html
