Hi Charlie, did you get my reply? What do you make of that? Something else that a lot of people miss is that there has alwaysbeen a rift between the east and the west which leads me to think that there is no way in hell that the Alberta oilmen want to send the oil east. Some of this comes from the NEP Trudeau brought in in the late 70's and Harper tho from the east seems to have bonded with Alberta and the oilmen of Calgary, thus the push to ship west. Dave.