Halibut season

[r.s craven]

I just spoke with the DFO office in Victoria and requested
information on the Halibut & Chinook seasons.
They advised there will be an announcement friday (Feb 20)
for the Halibut season.
No info available on the Chinook season.

[Poppa Swiss]

bring it on

[Governor]

I was really expecting an announcement by Friday Feb 13th, but there was no news. Get your hali tackle ready but don't get your hopes too high just yet!



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[Tailspin]

Oh isn't that special, I can hardly contain myself in much awaited anticipation! Im sure it will be a positive announcement.

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[r.s craven]

Ya they said the announcement would involve opening dates
and catch limits...
read what you want into that statement.

[Big Joe]

Well, I heard April fools, a week after the commercial opening, that was from a commercial guy.[?]

[Dirty Oar]

Well I'm looking forward to some flatties. Just ate the last few pieces from the freezer. It better open up I got the boat all ready to go and gear tied up! Bring on the blood!

[LastChance]

Just got the DFO letter from Chris. No change to our allocation this year.

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[chris73]

To refine what LC said - no change to the 88/12% quota split and therefore substantial cuts to the 2009 sport quota compared to last year. No word on when it opens and how it opens...Our new minister thinks it's fair the way it is and changes would hurt the economy...Brainless piece of meat! [xx(][xx(]

[Hoochiebob]

my question is how they intend to regulate the reduction.Are we going to see a narrow window of opportunity or are they going to implement some valid ideas that have been pitched around the sportie community.This will be a good time to see if our input has any weight at all.
I would prefer to see an experimental regulation fail (ie: annual limits) than the typical time-based closure that seems to be the only solution that our governing bodies rely upon.
But then again,maybe we're too late to save another species.


Hooch

[wolf]

This is just the beginnig guys bet you wont see a season maybe if we are lucky april 1 but lets wait and see and be optimistic its not that bad!!!!!!!!!!!

But ill warn you all now this is halibut. and take notice THIS WIL NOT be the end of it there will be more to come summer springs will be next.
if your thinking of buying a boat and becoming a guide stick to what you got as its going to a very very rough road.
thats why i got back into being a chef

Wolf

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[Tailspin]

Sure hope it opens before that, Im almost out of stock! We'll still get a season, just a short one?

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[r.s craven]

Guess what ?, DFO hope to have an answer on the rec. Halibut opening
today before 4:30.... but they weren't positive [:0]
nothing on Chinook yet.

[kngfsh7]

Interesting that the SFAB did not support a 1 and 2, daily and possession limit that would have extended the season. Is this because they prefer to see a shorter season that facilitates the big lodge operations that rely on liberal quotas to bring in customers? As for the local angler who fishes out of Victoria, how many halibut a day do you need? If you have three people in the boat, you can keep three halibut – isn’t that enough? It may be that DFO will open the season early this year, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it closes soon after the end of August. Unfortunately, I fear what we will see eventually is a truncated summer-only opening that favours the commercial recreation sector.

[Tips Up]

If the announcement that we are waiting for today is generated back east where it is 5:45 pm right now, why don't we have an answer??
Craven - what's the local number to call?

Thanks,
Tips

[r.s craven]

250-363-3252

Everyone should call , burn up the phone lines boys !

i was told that the website was updated in Vancouver
here's the link

http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/recfish/Tidal/area19_e.htm

[ReelAffair]

just called the number and they said no answer yet.....maybe mid next week:(


everybody keep calling them....she sounded somewhat annoyed

[ReelAffair]

had 3 other people from work call too:D

[Tips Up]

LOL!
Yup she sounded annoyed. Especially after I grilled her a bit [}:)]

Make a call and don't forget to drop by the DFO booth tomorrow to ask a few questions.

Tips

[ReelAffair]

we have 40 people here at work:D

alot of them owe me some favours....lol

[Sushihunter]

quote:Originally posted by r.s craven

250-363-3252

Everyone should call , burn up the phone lines boys !

i was told that the website was updated in Vancouver
here's the link

http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/recfish/Tidal/area19_e.htm



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[Cuba Libre]

quote:Interesting that the SFAB did not support a 1 and 2, daily and possession limit that would have extended the season. Is this because they prefer to see a shorter season that facilitates the big lodge operations that rely on liberal quotas to bring in customers? As for the local angler who fishes out of Victoria, how many halibut a day do you need? If you have three people in the boat, you can keep three halibut – isn’t that enough?

Kngfsh7-- you really dont have any idea what this is all about do you? I dont live in Victoria, and most of the people that fish halibut are not Victoria residents. 88% of what used to be a common property resource has been GIVEN away to 400 commercials and we get 12% for 300K anglers?? But you seem to figure that its OK to limit anglers to one a day?? For me to get to the halibut grounds and fish for a couple of days, it costs me $700-$800 that goes back into the general economy. But you feel its OK that I am only allowed ONE halibut? when I am fishing next to a longliner that is catching thousands of pounds?? OF FISH THAT REALLY BELONG TO ALL OVER THE PEOPLE OF CANADA Please get real!!!!

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[mason.jar]

quote:Originally posted by Cuba Libre


quote:Interesting that the SFAB did not support a 1 and 2, daily and possession limit that would have extended the season. Is this because they prefer to see a shorter season that facilitates the big lodge operations that rely on liberal quotas to bring in customers? As for the local angler who fishes out of Victoria, how many halibut a day do you need? If you have three people in the boat, you can keep three halibut – isn’t that enough?

Kngfsh7-- you really dont have any idea what this is all about do you? I dont live in Victoria, and most of the people that fish halibut are not Victoria residents. 88% of what used to be a common property resource has been GIVEN away to 400 commercials and we get 12% for 300K anglers?? But you seem to figure that its OK to limit anglers to one a day?? For me to get to the halibut grounds and fish for a couple of days, it costs me $700-$800 that goes back into the general economy. But you feel its OK that I am only allowed ONE halibut? when I am fishing next to a longliner that is catching thousands of pounds?? OF FISH THAT REALLY BELONG TO ALL OVER THE PEOPLE OF CANADA Please get real!!!!

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I am sorry, but it has been far less than twenty years that sport anglers have targeted the mighty flat fish, it has only been within this time frame that it has been recognized as a sport valued fish. Up and until this time frame we as sporty's were recognized for taking 1%. Has it now become the focus of our plight, we now have a gold mine at 18%. Which side of retarded did we all wake up and decide that every fishery was ours to own and diminish as we see fit? I am humbled at the fact the other Federal jurisdictions are commercial only, namely the East coast of Canada. What, are we now going to keep bumping up a notch until we have everything set in our favor, or are we willing to actually work at it all and truly come up with favorable options and solutions that work for all?? Bark, bark, bark! The sound caries however no solution is granted. Mason

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[r.s craven]

Mason,
the fact of the matter is that our Salmon fishery is in such a state
of decline, that many angler's are targeting Halibut now.
Now that DFO are clamping down on Halibut everyone is up in arms because there really isn't any other saltwater fishery.
Sad, but we humans are greedy and that gets in the way of common sense when it comes to protecting the resource.
(Myself included :()
I agree there is no easy solution.

[Cuba Libre]

quote:I am sorry, but it has been far less than twenty years that sport anglers have targeted the mighty flat fish, it has only been within this time frame that it has been recognized as a sport valued fish. Up and until this time frame we as sporty's were recognized for taking 1%. Has it now become the focus of our plight, we now have a gold mine at 18%. Which side of retarded did we all wake up and decide that every fishery was ours to own and diminish as we see fit? I am humbled at the fact the other Federal jurisdictions are commercial only, namely the East coast of Canada. What, are we now going to keep bumping up a notch until we have everything set in our favor, or are we willing to actually work at it all and truly come up with favorable options and solutions that work for all?? Bark, bark, bark! The sound caries however no solution is granted. Mason



Huh?? Try plain English.... and 20 years??? Well I can tell you that is just plain WRONG. I have been after these fish for a whole lot longer than that, and so have most of the grey beards that I fish with. Just because DFO didnt notice , does not mean our fishery didnt happen...


quote:we willing to actually work at it all and truly come up with favorable options and solutions that work for all??

Well try telling me again that it is reasonable that the people of Canada are allowed 12% of the TAC. And its OK for the government to gift away the other 88% to approximately 400 commercial fishermen !!!!
Ya-- tell me all about that one..... and while you are at it
quote:diminish as we see fit? -- since when has the sportsfishery diminished the halibut stocks in BC????

You have been listening to the DFO and commercial BS too long.



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[Governor]

Delayed season openings, 11th hour last minute crisis management, breaching the Minister's commitment to avoid in-season closures, inability to act fairly re intersectoral allocation, failuring to honour the advice of the SFAB process, stating publically when DFO fisheries notices will be given and then failing to honour their word are all symptoms of government agency in total crisis!

Its Feb 20th and there's still no DFO notice about a halibut opening.
Hundreds and hundreds of hours of volunteer anglers time has gone into trying to resolve this mess through the SFAB to avoid uncertainty and disruption of our hali fishery. What is a real killer is we want to see the commies get compensation for transfer to keep us fishing!

Behind this debacle they call the Thibeault 12/88 Halibut Allocation Framework is the fact it is a pilot project of intersectoral allocation. Next comes salmon, lingcod, prawns and crab - I am sure you just can't wait!

Remember this all started around 2000 when the greed-based commercial sector who were then recently gifted their Individual Transferable Halibut Quotas (quasi ownership of a resource) said to DFO Ottawa they wanted us sporties to have only 5% of the halibut TAC while they deserved 95%

It is terribly terribly wrong to let them destroy our fishery. If you aren't ready to take action against the treatment we have received, you had best practice bending over and buy plenty of vasoline




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[wolf]

Mason I personally have been fishing the Victoria area FOR halibut coming up to almost 30 years and been guiding people for almost 20 back then it was not so many people that did it before gps god can you remember them days!!!!!!.this whole thing that worries me the most it isnt about conservation. If it was It would be a better pill to swallow.its all political after reading that letter it just confirmed it more sad very sad indeed [V][V][V]


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[bee15]

loran worked quite well in the 70s as an aide for fishing halibutsbefore thatpeople were afraid and listened to silly storiesabout them.at least around victoriaanywaynice try mason theres lotsa halibut here.for comm. and sportcuba has a good point im allowed one while anotherguy winches in hundreds a day.right beside me?

[ThistledewII]

Just talked to DFO at the Vic boat show. They said the decision is now out on WED. due to a holds up in Ottawa.

[mason.jar]

Cuba, Wolf, that is very, very interesting, lets look at the sport fishery on a serious level, share your experience of the time. Let's start 30 years ago, Wolf, how old are you today? Cuba, I might think about your experience more, how ever I can most certainly grantee that in 1979, halibut was not a mainstream sport fishery. If you tell me it was then for certain you are a (sports)fisherman and full of much more than your favorite drink. Boy don't play the game of BS, you are further ahead dealing with today rather than playing bs and trying to portray something of which you are not or have never been. Think about it gentleman, don't bs it, as it will not help our plight, today or in the future. Mason

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[Bogman]

Well guys its MHO that the only way the sports sector is going to get more access to halibut is by creating a mechanism to transfer quota from the commercial sector. the sports sector will waste alot of time and effort and possibly money if they think the government is going to just roll over and make all halibut a public resource. It a nice thought but IT IS NOT going to happen . Work on things you can change ,not things you can't. Again, my humble opinion

"Who would have ever thought it would be this much fun catching them one at a time"

[The Fish Assassin]

MODS SHOULD THIS BE IN THE POLITICAL FORUM??


quote:im allowed one while another guy winches in hundreds a day.right beside me?

Feel free to buy your self a licence. For 5,472 LBS halibut it will cost you $237,664 (CDN) for the licence. Maybe that is how the SFAB could get more allocation, just buy up those commercial licences.

Take only what you need.

[wolf]

Well mason since Im an honest man ill tell you BECAUSE I was there ill be 42 this summer and started very early yes I didnt know back then what I do now but NOBODY did then.I got my first hali at 10 and then loved fishing ever since. But I was fortunate enough to have a elder take me under his wing who was an ex commercial fisherman who had a son and him an my dad would all go fishing we all have been friend and still going strong. His son and I have been friends ever since to this day we fish and hunt together.

YES there was a sportfishery for hali then as there was quite a few guys that did do it I still rememeber going over to his house to make "weights" we used to pour concrete into old soup cans for halibut weights and old MJB cans for salmon weights(funny seems the cans looked bigger back then) on the old girnies and he used to make us do this to teach us to work and respect what we were doing for what the process was he still is in the industry make fishing gear.Some of you know who im talking about.

WE used to just go out off of albert head or constance and throw an anchor down and most times we were around anywhere from 5 to 10 regulars that did it and even fished the race but we used to tie up to the "greencan" then someone else would come up and tie on to your stern and then another and so on sometimes over 15 boats would be tied on.

And I dont know if you remember this as well constance back used to be closed to all fishing up to april 1 but i cant remember when it closed (sorry) there was a few guides back then as well the boat I was on and the " TUGGY" and an old guy whos still around who by the name of old charlie who I occasionally drop of a few 3 oz pieces of halibut for as thats all he wants or some venison liver.

This is not BS as you have called me out in saying so please dont insult me or anyones intelligence most people are concerned with what is going down and pissed off plain and simple!!!!!!!!!
thanks have a great day


Wolf

[Nimo]

5500 pounds for $238,000, that's aprox $48 per pound for the first year and is a permanent allocation, I assume? The recreational sector could make that back in the first year or two as a contribution to the economy. Between government, the local towns, the fishing orgs, guides, and the sporties this is do-able - that is if you could trust that DFO wouldn't simply take it back in a year.

[fish4all]

quote:
I am sorry, but it has been far less than twenty years that sport anglers have targeted the mighty flat fish, it has only been within this time frame that it has been recognized as a sport valued fish. Up and until this time frame we as sporty's were recognized for taking 1%. Has it now become the focus of our plight, we now have a gold mine at 18%. Which side of retarded did we all wake up and decide that every fishery was ours to own and diminish as we see fit? I am humbled at the fact the other Federal jurisdictions are commercial only, namely the East coast of Canada. What, are we now going to keep bumping up a notch until we have everything set in our favor, or are we willing to actually work at it all and truly come up with favorable options and solutions that work for all?? Bark, bark, bark! The sound caries however no solution is granted. Mason

[www.savebcsalmon.ca]

Mason you are bang on. Halibut was never targeted until the salmon numbers started to decrease. The numbers of charters and sports boats on the water has more than trippled in the last 10 years. Now with declining stocks, increased effort and increased efficiency there is not enough fish in our share of the allocation.
There is a way to get more fish and it is through buying it. The commercial sports sector loves to spout off how much there fish is worth so lets get on with it. License the commercial sports fleet, let them buy quota and free up some of the 69% they use up for the average sporty.

[bee15]

IF we talk about the average sporty im sure he would be more than happy JUST TO be allowed to fish. morethan happy to be allowed one halibut a day just to be able to have the opportunity to catch a halibut. most of the sporties who are going out dont catch one for the first few trips anyway. they cherish the memory of their trip if succesful.or not.personally as a sportfisherman i would just like to see the season start or not just something definate happenwhois going to the salmon foundation dinner tonight?? i know i am.its at uvic sounds like lotsa fun. bennyannouncement at the dinner last night was march 1stfor halibut opening.

[mason.jar]

Thank you Wolf, however what I am trying to communicate is that halibut at the time (1979) was not a mainstream sport fishery. There may have been a few anglers who may have chased after them here and there, it however was not as big as some of you are trying pose. Honestly the SFAB and SFAC is the process that we all need to work with. By religiously attending SFAC in your region, relaying your concerns at these meetings is what will get noticed. Barking and complaining and planning events outside the process, will only shut an open door, it will get slammed tighter than a frogs butt in water. There is no room for distractions, stay focused on a resolve, make all of your ideas count, be smart and react on nothing with emotion, work towards a calm resolve. Today we have an open line of communication, with many, many people working diligently on the best possible solution. Mason


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[tailout]

Good news halibut opens March 1st .

TailoutFishingAventures
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[Governor]

I heard that same Mar 1st Hali opening news too at the Victoria Outdoor show this morning. Apparently, it came via the DFO RDG who advised the SFI president. So likely reliable.

But nothing on daily catch and possession limits nor (and this is the BIG ONE) when they plan to close us down.




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[richmake]

without a closure date announced, none of us should be happy.
daily catch limits and possession limits are another issue but without a closure date written in stone we are leaving ourselves hanging.
How would you like it if you booked a charter to a place like the charlottes for 5 day's and when you arrive, DFO closes it on you for the season...trust me...this could happen if we don't act now!

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[Cuba Libre]

quote:I am sorry, but it has been far less than twenty years that sport anglers have targeted the mighty flat fish, it has only been within this time frame that it has been recognized as a sport valued fish


quote:I can most certainly grantee that in 1979, halibut was not a [u]mainstream</u> sport fishery

Gee what a difference a single word makes Mason.... I guess all of us who lived and worked in the charlottes and in the Central Coast were not mainstream because we didnt live in Victoria. But I can tell you that you are absolutely wrong to say there was no sportsfishery for halibut 40 years ago. The only difference was that we used large jigs on a handline.... But we were MOST cetainly sportfishing ... and there were a considerable number of us who did. Not many butcher shops where I was working

But you are right about wasting time debating these issues on line when there is a better target for our word processors..... later..

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[porcupine]

I heard one per day and one in possession.

[wolf]

This is all rumors once I see it from DFO itself then ill believe it as there is so much back and forth debating nobody really knows DFO is very tight lipped and ill be honest that scares me...WHY????


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[Poppa Swiss]

just talked to DFO - weds. is the new D-day - she did tell me I could call a Gary Logan in Vancouver as he is playing a large part in the decision making.

Gary Logan
604-666-9033

[Poppa Swiss]

called Gerry logan and posed as a traveling Angler from Cali, concerned about my yearly march halibut trip to sooke.


Opening march first with 1 per day, 2 possession was what he had to say.

[BlackPearl]

I called at about 10:10am this morning to the office in victoria..she said to call back on thursday...she "wished she could tell me something"...if they know..just tell us...morons...there taking more and more money out of the economy everyday they stall...

[Tailspin]

This is my lates response received today from an E mail sent last night. Looks like the alleged March 1/09 opening is only rumour!
They are starting to really like my ten e-mails a day...

Hi Justin,

DFO fishery managers have not finalized a decision to open sport fishing opportunities for halibut and fishing remains closed. I suggest you check again towards the end of the week to see if an announcement has been made.

You can check by going to this link and clicking on the grey button called "get notice list".
http://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/xnet/content/fns/index.cfm?pg=search_options&lang=en&id=recreational

Margarita Schwartzel
Fisheries and Oceans Canada | Pêches et Océans Canada
Communications Branch | Direction des communications
200-401 Burrard Street, Vancouver, BC V6C 3S4 | Pièce 200 401, rue Burrard, Vancouver, (C.-B.) V6C 3S4
Tel: (604) 666-1704 Fax/Télécopieur: 604-666-1847
Margarita.Schwartzel@dfo-mpo.gc.ca

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[Poppa Swiss]

tailspin call gerry logan at 604-666-9033 - he said he WANTS guides to call him so can fill you in.

When I posed as a visiting angler he wanted "my guides" phone number so he could call him to tell him what he just told me.

1/day 2/possesion open march 1st.

[Governor]

PS - it's actually Gary Logan at DFO

God never did make a more calm, quiet, innocent recreation than angling - Izaak Walton

[r.s craven]

From Chris Bos

Halibut open March 01/09
1 per day/2 possesion, season will stay open until
we hit our allocation.

[Deewar25]

quote:Originally posted by The Jackel

Time to rape and pilage folks it won't be open for long as we will be over our TAC real early[:0]

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Oh yeah, at a 1/day pace - serious pilaging there...not...
Hate to say it, but I'm going out on a limb and saying our company wont be doing our annual trip to Renfrew now thanks to that. Damn shame for the town and the guides as that's $6000 or so that wont be spent. We are just 1 group of how many????????? I hope I'm wrong regardless...but..........

[chris73]

Yeah, Deewar, I think Renfrew can close shop now... They are done unless they come up with tuna trips or so.

[richmake]

Here's reality people....
I just had some clients call me and say that they are still coming this year....just don't expect them to be releasing any of those big fish like we did last year.
Thank you DFO for again not looking at the bigger picture and like we have all said all along...this has nothing to do with conservation and more to do with padding the pockets of the commercial boy's that are pretty much living the good life in Hawaii...


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[powder]

So you would cancel the company fishing trip over one halibut per person, average size 15 lbs? You still get a wonderful day with a guide, a great experiance, two springs probably teens or better and possible coho or ? A day with Jackel telling his hockey stories and wacking a nice sized hali and a couple mooched cutplug chinooks is a great day. For the sake of 15 lbs of hali each a shame to cancel the awesome day of fishing!

[Deewar25]

quote:Originally posted by powder

So you would cancel the company fishing trip over one halibut per person, average size 15 lbs? You still get a wonderful day with a guide, a great experiance, two springs probably teens or better and possible coho or ? A day with Jackel telling his hockey stories and wacking a nice sized hali and a couple mooched cutplug chinooks is a great day. For the sake of 15 lbs of hali each a shame to cancel the awesome day of fishing!




Don't need to tell me that, but yes, likely as the manager that organizes loves his halibut and probably couldn't justify the cost any longer (not my company, not my decision!). Problem is, that is a long haul for 1 halibut and unless you are there in August, there may not be much else to target out on the banks (wasn't last year). What it comes down to essentially would be just a trip for salmon, and well, you can often do just as well in Sooke and the company would save about $3000.

Hope I'm wrong, but I think they'll be looking for a new activity or new location for the summer party.

[r.s craven]

I believe you're right Deewar, i don't know too many people who would
spend $1000 to go to the bank for a 20lb halibut and maybe a chance
at a spring or two.
IMO that meat fishery is done.

[bananas]

Still lots of people calling and booking 1000$ for a full day of fishing on the west coast for a halli and a couple of springs.
Or you could book a trip out of Vic or Sooke for 500$ for half a day and maybe get a halli or a salmon,maybe.

There's something about fishing the west coast that people love.
It's time to get back to fishing and not filling the freezer.

[The Fish Assassin]

1 day trip
- $1000
- 1 25 pound halibut
= $40.00/pound, if your lucky enough to get one that is.


$15.83/lb for fillets today at thrifty foods. Your boss could still spend the $6 grand on Halibut and probly get 400-500 pounds already filleted for you guys to split up!!


That is unreal! It is now offically way cheaper at the supermarket!!
Not a good time to be a guide.

Take only what you need.

[Deewar25]

quote:Originally posted by The Fish Assassin

1 day trip
- $1000
- 1 25 pound halibut
= $40.00/pound, if your lucky enough to get one that is.


$15.83/lb for fillets today at thrifty foods. Your boss could still spend the $6 grand on Halibut and probly get 400-500 pounds already filleted for you guys to split up!!


That is unreal! It is now offically way cheaper at the supermarket!!
Not a good time to be a guide.

Take only what you need.


weak...try again - thats per boat and I seriously doubt 1 guy ever books - more typical is 3 to 4/boat, so on your so called 1 hali (each), that is $10-15/pound average IF you only caught a hali each. Odds are that isn't the case though and you can count on at least a 20lb salmon or two on top and perhaps a ling or two.

Last 3 years we have gone to Renfrew:
3 people, 6 hali, 8 salmon (coho/small springs), 3 snapper, 1 ling about 180 pounds

2 people, 4 hali, 3 salmon, 1 ling (I think...tougher year) - about 95 pounds

3 people - 5 hali, 6 salmon (all teens), few cod - about 160 pounds


Still can't justify supermarket even with only 1 hali - the guides will be fine, will adapt and fish the holes with the larger hali if need be, get into larger salmon etc etc

Personally, have not bought a fish in my life from a supermarket, and don't ever plan on it (if I have to live on trout, so be it!). For most of us, it's as much being out on the water than it is providing meals for the family!

[wolf]

ITS CALLED"SPORT FISHING" for a reason if you want meat go to the store if you want to experience fishing and the chance at some quality salmon,halibut crab or ,the westcoast,whales, seals,bald eagles and fun times then you go!!!!!! it is entertainment money you are really spending isnt it ??? think about it there is NO Guarantee in fishing..... If a quide tells you that I personally would book with him as he must be great.

If you spend $500 for a pair of canuck tickets ferry,hotel and etc and now your over $1200. people seem to have no problem with that and its only 3 hours of fun and all you get from it is pure entertainment you dont get to bring home anything from it just what you watched.

Point is we have to get away from the mind set the ocean is a never ending supply for our freezer yes its fantastic to get it and trust me I love it and eat it alot we have to stop giving it away to all our friends but if you choose to do that then dont bitch when it is all gone and seasons close!!!!!! Hoard what you catch and feed yourself first not everyone else


Wolf

Blue Wolf Charters
www.bluewolfcharters.com

[chris73]

quote:...whales, seals,...

What? You do this on purpose? You bad Wolf! Never gonna book with you if you set me up to get sealed!!! :D

[LastChance]

I'm going to get roasted for saying this, but I'll bet it's really going to seperate the guides from the "I have a boat and know how to throw Berkeley at halibut on random banks on WCVI" crowd. I'll bet it will really thin the herd a lot.

My bookings are about right where they should be and that includes me telling everyone that at best they should expect one halibut per day.





Last Chance Fishing Adventures

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[chris73]

So you are going back to Rennie this summer, LC?

[LastChance]

quote:Originally posted by chris73

So you are going back to Rennie this summer, LC?


Either for May long weekend or after the JDF, but yes, I'll be there.

Last Chance Fishing Adventures

www.lastchancefishingadventures.com
www.swiftsurebank.com

[Governor]

Lets be positive - we're going hali fishing on Sunday coastwide

But remember the allocation fiasco is gonna kick us in the jewels again ... we can't drop the ball on this one

Last Chance good to hear your bookings are on track!



God never did make a more calm, quiet, innocent recreation than angling - Izaak Walton

[ReelAffair]

they opened it with no closure date...how long will it be??


Fishery Notice

Category(s): RECREATIONAL - Fin Fish (Other than Salmon)

Subject: FN0101-Halibut: Further to FN0037 & Amendment to FN0100 - Coastwide Opening and Limits

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


The department will implement a coastwide opening of the recreational halibut
fishery:

Coastwide:
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Effective 00:01 hours March 1, 2009 fishing for halibut will be opened
coastwide. The daily limit at the start of the season is one (1) per day with a
possession limit of two (2).

The exception to this opening is:

Areas 121, 23 and 123:
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Effective 00:01 hours March 1, 2009 to 23:59 hours December 31, 2009:

- No person shall fish for or retain halibut, rockfish and lingcod in Area 121
outside the 12 nautical mile limit seaward of a line that begins at 48 degrees
34.000 minutes North latitude and 125 degrees 17.386 minutes West longitude and
continues south easterly at a bearing of 116 degrees True to a point at 48
degrees 28.327 minutes North latitude and 125 degrees 01.687 minutes West
longitude.

- Electronic licence conditions will be continued as follows:
"no person who is not a Canadian resident may fish for or retain halibut under
this licence in management Areas 121, 23 and 123."


In an effort to open the recreational fishery while some key issues with
respect to the 2009 management plan remain unresolved, the initial halibut
retention limit will be one per day, two in total possession. The department
expects to complete its consultations with the recreational sector on the
halibut management plan for 2009 before the end of February, including
examining the feasibility of increasing the daily limits. The plan will include
measures for monitoring and evaluating the catch in-season. Any changes in the
management plan following these consultations will be announced in a subsequent
Fishery Notice.

Variation Order No. 2009-67


FOR MORE INFORMATION:
Bill Shaw 604-666-3271 and Gary Logan 604-666-9033.







http://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/xnet/content/fns/index.cfm?pg=view_notice&lang=en&DOC_ID=115450&ID=recreational

[fish4all]

quote:Originally posted by wolf

ITS CALLED"SPORT FISHING" for a reason if you want meat go to the store if you want to experience fishing and the chance at some quality salmon,halibut crab or ,the westcoast,whales, seals,bald eagles and fun times then you go!!!!!! it is entertainment money you are really spending isnt it ??? think about it there is NO Guarantee in fishing..... If a quide tells you that I personally would book with him as he must be great.

If you spend $500 for a pair of canuck tickets ferry,hotel and etc and now your over $1200. people seem to have no problem with that and its only 3 hours of fun and all you get from it is pure entertainment you dont get to bring home anything from it just what you watched.

Point is we have to get away from the mind set the ocean is a never ending supply for our freezer yes its fantastic to get it and trust me I love it and eat it alot we have to stop giving it away to all our friends but if you choose to do that then dont bitch when it is all gone and seasons close!!!!!! Hoard what you catch and feed yourself first not everyone else


Wolf

Blue Wolf Charters
www.bluewolfcharters.com


Awesome post Wolf.