Your opinion?

[dman]

http://www.salmonuniversity.com/or_fishing_reports.html

Is the 17lb coho from Neah Bay clipped?

Sure looks like a fin to me.

[victoriaboater]

Looks wild to me.

[Dan The Man]

I say its a fin, hes trying to hide it to.

[Slabby20]

Sure doesn't look clipped to me. Hard to see real clearly. Looks like it's sticking up between his fingers though.

I was out on the bank out of Bamfield on Monday (the chicken ranch) and there were 6 of the Ucluelet Princess boats there. Lots and lots of nice coho caught. We never saw them throw back one. Our catch was probably 4 or 5 wild fish to each hatchery caught. I doubt they were only catchin hatchery:D Has anyone ever seen the same thing? If they are keeping the wild fish and you do the math, 4 fish per fisherman on those big boats, that's a lot of wild fish. Maybe they were releasing them all on the opposite side of the boats:D:D

[saltybeaver]

It might be better that the puker boats are keeping those wild cohos instead of killing 60 to get there limit.

[dman]

quote:Originally posted by saltybeaver

It might be better that the puker boats are keeping those wild cohos instead of killing 60 to get there limit.


I stated as much to WDFW. From personal experience, I would kill way fewer wild fish if I kept the first two I caught. They're thinking of insituting some special hook rule instead, when we are already barbless. It's not the type of hook in the fish, it's the fact that they get hooked in the gills, eyes, tongue, etc..

[Poppa Swiss]

wild - the fin is right there.

[Striper Sniper]

Hey guys, give it up, go fishing............:D Striper Sniper

[saltybeaver]

some people are stuck at work [V]

[MyEscape]

Heres the picture lightened up and if you safe it to your computer and blow it up you be the judge! ;)

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c194/KLench/Newman3.jpg

Cheers ME

[tortuga]

After further review, the penalty stands.
Two minutes for posing with an unclipped Ho.

[El Pescador]

quote:Originally posted by MyEscape

Heres the picture lightened up and if you safe it to your computer and blow it up you be the judge! ;)

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c194/KLench/Newman3.jpg

Cheers ME


I enhanced the picture brightness to 100% with Photoshop, and the result is quite clear.;)

[Klob]

Thats not a very nice thing to say about a guys Wife.

[Jockey]

Wild coho are not open that way yet?

I know in Renfrew you can keep the wild coho. It is supposed to be only inside the bay but they are open. Check your local regs, you might be able to keep some wild fish now.

[Jockey]

That's a legal fish!!

Check the regs before you flame somebody. Neah Bay is area 4.

http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/recfish/Tidal/area04_e.htm#Salmon

Coho's are open, have at her.

[Hoochiebob]

I Dont suppose that that coho was caught in proximity to Neah bay,U.S.A?I dont think DFO has any influence there,eh?

[JuandeOne]

quote:Originally posted by Jockey

That's a legal fish!!

Check the regs before you flame somebody. Neah Bay is area 4.

http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/recfish/Tidal/area04_e.htm#Salmon

Coho's are open, have at her.


Couple too many Friday afternoon wooblies there Jockey. First off, Neah Bay encompasses US waters and Area 4 refers an American Management Area. Secondly, the issue isn't coho retention but wild coho retention. With that said, I have no idea what there present regs are.

[tyeegalore]

Not passing judgement on the legality of the fish as I have no idea about what is open or not in Neah Bay but when the photo is enlarged and you look at right side of the middle finger you can see the top of the finger above the knuckle but clearly the bottom half of the finger is obscured by an object that is about the size and colour of an Adipose fin. As well the finger on the far right is elevated and appears to have a similar looking object under it. But pictures can be deceiving.

[Tanglefoot]

As I understand it, correct me if I'm wrong and I'm sure you will;) I've heard that the majority (?) of hatchery fish are not clipped...I guess only a hatchery person could make the call on this.

Tom

[JuandeOne]

quote:Originally posted by urchin

As I understand it, correct me if I'm wrong and I'm sure you will;) I've heard that the majority (?) of hatchery fish are not clipped...I guess only a hatchery person could make the call on this.

Tom


I worked in a few SEP hatcheries in the late 90's and only a percentage of hatchery reared fish were marked and clipped. It would be next to impossible to determine if an unmarked fish is in fact wild or enhanced.

[Oglthorpe]

A lot of hatcherys don't mark their coho due to funding restrictions.

[TheBigGuy]

I just got back from two weeks in Bamfield. From this years, and past years trips I would say next to nobody actually obeys the wild release regs. Everybody you see in the wild release area is bonking small fish you know aren't springs. They simply keep them, then return to the dock and say they caught them inside Aguilar point if asked.

I asked a some guys at the cleaning table a couple of days ago how they caught so many Coho and Halibut inside Aguilar point. They weren't too impressed with my comments. Then I suggested they cut the adipose fins off the Coho they were cleaning as they weren't supposed to have them from offshore. They didn't seem too impressed with that either.

I always release wild Coho caught in the out of bounds areas outside Bamfield. From my experiences there I would say that only a small percentage of the people over there actually comply with the wild release areas. Sad, but true.

[dman]

quote:Originally posted by TheBigGuy

I just got back from two weeks in Bamfield. From this years, and past years trips I would say next to nobody actually obeys the wild release regs. Everybody you see in the wild release area is bonking small fish you know aren't springs. They simply keep them, then return to the dock and say they caught them inside Aguilar point if asked.

I asked a some guys at the cleaning table a couple of days ago how they caught so many Coho and Halibut inside Aguilar point. They weren't too impressed with my comments. Then I suggested they cut the adipose fins off the Coho they were cleaning as they weren't supposed to have them from offshore. They didn't seem too impressed with that either.

I always release wild Coho caught in the out of bounds areas outside Bamfield. From my experiences there I would say that only a small percentage of the people over there actually comply with the wild release areas. Sad, but true.



All of the Washington Coast at the time of the pic was closed to wild Coho harvest. Area 4 US is a non-native Coho retention area, I'm not sure why a BC area was posted. I also looked in the Canadian regs, I believe Blue Dot, if anywhere overlapping would lie in 125 which also is a non-native retention area. Not "flaming" anyone, just trying to understand why other's down here in Wa. are keeping natives when I wasn't aware you could. Sekiu MA 5 does have a wild opening going on right now that began on the 15th, but that's the only one I'm aware of.

[dman]

It would actually be 121-3, or 121-2 if it were on the Canadian side, =closed to wild Coho. Again, area four, Neah Bay US is CLOSED to wilds also.

[Poacher2]

quote:Originally posted by Jockey

That's a legal fish!!

Check the regs before you flame somebody. Neah Bay is area 4.

http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/recfish/Tidal/area04_e.htm#Salmon

Coho's are open, have at her.



Holy are you ever confused![:o)]http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/recfish/Tidal/area04map_e.htmhttp://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/recfish/Tidal/area04map_e.htm

[porcupine]

I sent the following message to Tom at Salmon University and got the response that follows. Some good has come from this topic!


As a regular contributor to the fishing reports, I thought you would be interested in this discussion about a picture/coho that was displayed on the web site. Most anglers here in Canada think that it is an illegally retained wild coho salmon. Perhaps it would be best to require anglers to clearly show in their picture, before posting, whether the fish is a hatchery marked fish. Tom
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> http://www.sportfishingbc.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7549

Hi Tom,
Thanks very much for bringing this to our attention. We try not to print pictures like that but some sneak past. Our webmaster blew the picture up and we agree that it was a wild Coho. We immediately took the picture down and informed the angler. Thanks again for alerting us and for your always excellent fishing reports. Tom Nelson

[porcupine]

I sent the following message to Tom at Salmon University and got the response that follows. Some good has come from this topic!


As a regular contributor to the fishing reports, I thought you would be interested in this discussion about a picture/coho that was displayed on the web site. Most anglers here in Canada think that it is an illegally retained wild coho salmon. Perhaps it would be best to require anglers to clearly show in their picture, before posting, whether the fish is a hatchery marked fish. Tom
>
> http://www.sportfishingbc.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7549

Hi Tom,
Thanks very much for bringing this to our attention. We try not to print pictures like that but some sneak past. Our webmaster blew the picture up and we agree that it was a wild Coho. We immediately took the picture down and informed the angler. Thanks again for alerting us and for your always excellent fishing reports. Tom Nelson

[KoneZone]

I am not familiar with the practices of Washington hatcheries but think there are quite a few Non-Clipped Coho/ Silvers that either slip by or are released on purpose. In Oregon there are whole runs that are not native that are treated as native. I support legislation that is realistic that defines the parameters and is enforced. When there are sketchy rules everyone suffers. I hope that future regulations are strictly enforced and make sense. If the sign says 55 ,everyone is going 85 and no one is getting any tickets there is a problem. Enforce the laws on the books!

[KoneZone]

I am not familiar with the practices of Washington hatcheries but think there are quite a few Non-Clipped Coho/ Silvers that either slip by or are released on purpose. In Oregon there are whole runs that are not native that are treated as native. I support legislation that is realistic that defines the parameters and is enforced. When there are sketchy rules everyone suffers. I hope that future regulations are strictly enforced and make sense. If the sign says 55 ,everyone is going 85 and no one is getting any tickets there is a problem. Enforce the laws on the books!

[marula]

good one porcupine ;)

[marula]

good one porcupine ;)

[kippersnack]

it's dead doesn't matter at the moment whether it's wild or not.;)

[kippersnack]

it's dead doesn't matter at the moment whether it's wild or not.;)